Xref: utzoo sci.med:8842 sci.physics:5974 sci.electronics:5130 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!sunybcs!kitty!larry From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.physics,sci.electronics Subject: Biomedical Measurement "Challenge": Cardiac Output Keywords: biomedical measurements, cardiac output, instrumentation Message-ID: <2991@kitty.UUCP> Date: 14 Feb 89 02:37:03 GMT Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY Lines: 56 I thought I would take a stab at creating some interesting topics of discussion (and speculation) concerning the application of engineering to the challenges of biomedical measurement. I will pose a measurement problem, and see if anyone can propose a solution. The problems should be of interest to those who like to apply physics and electronics to real world applications. After a week or so of discussion, I will post the actual methods used and the rationale behind them. If this article results in productive discussion, I will continue to pose these measurement problems on a regular basis. if not, well, it seemed like an interesting idea at the time. :-) A brief bit of background: I manage the development of scientific and chemical process measurement and control instrumentation. I am both an electrical engineer and biochemist, and have worked on a number of biomedical instrumentation projects in the past 19 years that I have been in private industry. I have had firsthand experience with anything that I may describe on this topic. In recent years, though, most of my work has been in the chemical process area, but I am still manage one active biomedical instrumentation project. Some of you reading the Net are physicians or others who may have intimate knowledge and experience with the subject matter; I would urge that you sit back for a few days and see what some others have to say. Okay, here we go... Reduced to simplest terms, the heart is a pump. As a pump it therefore has an output rating, which is termed "cardiac output" and is usually measured in liters/minute. While the heart is actually a synchronized dual pump, for the purpose of this discussion we are dealing with the left side of the heart which pumps oxygenated blood into the arterial system. The left side of the heart has one outlet: the aorta. Normal cardiac output ranges between 4 and 8 liters/min. Cardiac output is normalized to "cardiac index" which divides cardiac output by surface area of the skin; normal cardiac index ranges from 2.5 to 5 liters/min/meter^2. Cardiac output and cardiac index are valuable measurements used in the diagnosis of cardiovascular disease. Now the problem: how can we measure cardiac output without major surgery to expose the aorta and attach a flowmeter? There have been three major techniques used over the years, all of which share a common principle. Hint: bear in mind that we are taking a relatively short-term measurement, so you can assume that cardiac output is the same as venous return to the right atrium. You may also assume that the output of the right ventricle into the pulmonary artery is the same as the pulmonary venous return into the left atrium; i.e., both sides of the heart are pumping at the same rate with the blood volume within the lungs remaining the same. <> Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, New York <> UUCP: {allegra|ames|boulder|decvax|rutgers|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry <> VOICE: 716/688-1231 {att|hplabs|mtune|utzoo|uunet}!/ <> FAX: 716/741-9635 {G1,G2,G3 modes} "Have you hugged your cat today?"