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From: jsalter@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Notes from the Underground)
Newsgroups: sci.space
Subject: Re: Pigs will be pigs...
Keywords: You gotta be KIDDING
Message-ID: <7624@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU>
Date: 2 Feb 89 05:16:34 GMT
References: <602276265.amon@H.GP.CS.CMU.EDU>
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In <602276265.amon@H.GP.CS.CMU.EDU> csustan!lll-winken!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!H.GP.CS.CMU.EDU!Dale.Amon states:
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>The above is to be expected. The military does not foster a mentality
>that is compatible with a truely free society.

Surprise, surprise.  A military is meant to protect the CURRENT society.
A changing society is difficult to deal with and therefore unwanted by
the military.

>The more power that mentality is given over society, the farther said
>society will be driven from being a liberal, laissez-faire democracy.

So you're saying that our society is RIGHT NOW a liberal, laissez-faire
democracy?  Please go look outside.

>It is high time the Europeans got together and put up such a satellite.
>I would love to see a US firm do it and make a business out of it.  But
>the DoD does not care about America being the forerunner in opening new
>technology markets, so I would rather see this important contribution
>to world peace and stability done by statists than to see it not done
>at all.

Oh terrific.  Give every quack and terrorist in the world full up-to-date
information on all our citizenry visiting other countries while you're at
it.

>Someone has to put a check to the power hungry SOB's in ALL of the
>military establishment's of the world. The US is not unique in this
>respect, because the mentality comes with the territority.

Ok.  First, I'd like to see EXACTLY what's going on in that Libyan
chemical factory.  Think they'd let us if we told them where all our
military might is?

>So what if some US soldiers get wasted because they are on TV? The same
>will happen to the guys on the other side of whatever worthless
>imaginary line they are battling over. Maybe it will make ALL of them
>think twice about whether what they are doing is worth dying for.

IT WON'T REALLY MATTER IF THEY'RE DEAD, NOW WILL IT????

>If they stayed home and concentrated on defending US territorial waters
>and borders they wouldn't be on TV in the first place. Because NOBODY
>is going to attack us if we mind our own business. PERIOD.

Just like all those students who died in the the Air BOMBING over
Scotland, or the Ambassadors who get kidnapped or blown up for being
"Emmisaries of America".

>						Dale Amon
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>PS: And while you are at it, why not push for kicking ALL of our troops
>off of European soil and waters and airspace? The $50,000,000,000 or
>so saved per year would wipe out the US national debt, stabilize the
>dollar and make Europe less of a trip wire to WWIII. 

WHOAH!!!  The Europeans were kicking and screaming NOT to take out the
medium range missles that the INF treaty suggested.  Only some clever
maneuvering by the people in Geneva made them think otherwise.
And what $50 billion?  What are you going to do with all the displaced
military people?  Put them on welfare until they all find jobs?  Get
real.  You have no idea what you're talking about.

-- 
James A. Salter (jim/jsalter)    | If everyone believed in conservation of
jsalter@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU      | baryon number, there wouldn't be all those
...!ucbvax!voder!polyslo!jsalter | experiments looking for proton decay.