Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cornell!uw-beaver!fin!szabonj From: szabonj@fin (Nick Szabo) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: Space travel and the spirit of man Message-ID: <119@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Date: 10 Feb 89 05:19:55 GMT References: <3225@vice.ICO.TEK.COM> <258@corpane.UUCP> <4239@drivax.DRI> <583@internal.Apple.COM> <665@uceng.UC.EDU> <1989Feb9.211549.19516@utzoo.uucp> Sender: news@beaver.cs.washington.edu Reply-To: szabonj@fin.UUCP (Nick Szabo) Organization: U of Washington, CSCI, Seattle Lines: 50 >In article <665@uceng.UC.EDU> dmocsny@uceng.UC.EDU (daniel mocsny) writes: >The robotic and tele-operated technology we _must_ have to establish >and maintain a manned presence is not yet mature. The "must" is correct. Sustained manned presence requires self-sufficiency. Mir is totally dependent on Earth for all food, water, replacement parts, new modules, etc. The same will be true for Freedom. As parasites of Earth they are bad models for space settlements. To be self sufficient, a settlement must obtain, or be able to obtain in a crunch, its habitat, food, water, machines, factories, etc. from materials in space. This requires: --Mines and mining equipment, to extract the thousands of minerals needed. --Many kinds of diverse and flexible factories, to produce all the parts needed for the construction and maintenence of the settlements, the care and feeding and quality of life of the inhabitants, and of course the construction and maintenence of the mines and factories. --A large network of exploratory vehicles, to optimize the use of solar system resources. --An interplanetary transportation system, to bring the resources together for use. To do these things economically in space will require a large degree of teleoperation and robotics. It will also require the porting of current Earth mining and manufacturing techniques to space environments (eg free fall and vacuum)--not a trivial task. These technologies are being developed slowly today. In NASA, this is done mostly in the unmanned program. The probe-builders at JPL et. al. are developing techniques for operating vehicles with long round-trip light times, in free fall and vacuum, in various radiation environments. These spacecraft have many mechanical parts: scanning platforms, adjustable solar arrays and antennae, fuel and coolant pumps and valves, and (on sample return vehicles) digging and soil processing equipment. In addition, advances in Earth-bound mining and manufacturing (the British Channel Tunnel diggers, stereo lithography, teleoperated ocean vehicles, etc.) are relevent to developing space settlement technology. The sustainable manned presence which would grow from such technology could be developed much faster if we put more of our space budget into basic research and unmanned probes, and more effort in general into scientific research. As for the dream: I share it. Reality does not wreck dreams, it gives us a way of making them come true. Be patient, be honest with yourself, and work hard for it. *Do* let the dream inspire you; *don't* let it get in the way of the careful thinking and effort that can make it reality. Nick Szabo szabonj@fred.cs.washington.edu