Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!ndcheg!uceng!dmocsny From: dmocsny@uceng.UC.EDU (daniel mocsny) Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: Space travel and the human spirit Summary: It's going to be tight. Message-ID: <682@uceng.UC.EDU> Date: 11 Feb 89 18:23:33 GMT References: <4246@drivax.DRI> <14484@cup.portal.com> Distribution: usa Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati, College of Engg. Lines: 62 In article <14484@cup.portal.com>, hkhenson@cup.portal.com (H Keith Henson) writes: > *I* (at 47) expect not only to go into space, but to > travel to the stars. > ... Progress (much of it being made within 50 miles of where I live) in > the fabrication of ever smaller computers parts will take only a few decades > to reach the size scale where molecular repairs can be made to human cells. > There is no reason those who make it to that time should *ever* have to die, > and the same technology will reduce the cost of just about everthing to that > of firewood (grow your own spaceship). I hope you're right, because dying is not something I want to be around for when it happens. But I think the race against the clock is going to be tight for most of us. At 47 years can expect anywhere from 2-4 decades of further existence if you avoid accidents, homicide, and disease. Will that be enough time? No doubt our information-processing and nano-fabrication technologies are moving forward, but cellular repair on the scale you envision is an exceedingly complex problem. In the past four decades our computers have improved by six orders of magnitude in terms of raw processing power available from a given input of material and energy. Assuming this progress can continue, we will have another million-fold improvement in next four decades. Will that be enough? Keep in mind that our ability to fully exploit computer hardware lags significantly, by perhaps a decade or two. The human genome has a raw information content of ca. 1 GB. Significant advances in software must occur before we can develop algorithms that can meaningfully work this kind of information, irrespective of how much processing power is available. Our progress in software has been arithmetic, not exponential. Many commercial packages are still written in assembler. Finally, unless geneticists make real progress, they don't expect to be able to map the human genome, let alone fiddle with it comprehensively, for several decades. Don't get me wrong, I believe that what you say will eventually happen. Immortality, recreational space travel, and unimaginable personal wealth should follow naturally from mature information-processing capability. But within 2--3 decades? I'm not sure we could make the necessary cultural adjustments that quickly, even if the technology became feasible (i.e., what is to stop such tools from becoming forces for destruction?). Even now, we cannot seem to organize society to take full advantage of the present potential of computers. Finally, what little I know of the thermodynamics of irreversible processes leads me to the hunch that immortality will be much easier to confer on the young than on the old. Diseases are always far simpler to cure when caught early. Aging is probably a profound example of this. I could see genetically-engineered aging-resistant children in the next 3 decades. But to fix someone with massive cellular damage already in place? (My apologies to reader who feel this subject is straying from space. I feel that the impact of information technologies on the eventual privatization of space will be profound.) Cheers, Dan Mocsny dmocsny@uceng.uc.edu "Prophecy is difficult, especially with respect to the future."