Path: utzoo!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!ncar!tank!uxc!uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!uxg.cso.uiuc.edu!uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu!turner From: turner@uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Don't look back... Message-ID: <43700051@uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu> Date: 24 Feb 89 16:59:00 GMT References: <4330@pt.cs.cmu.edu> Lines: 32 Nf-ID: #R:pt.cs.cmu.edu:4330:uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu:43700051:000:1677 Nf-From: uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu!turner Feb 24 10:59:00 1989 In article <4330@pt.cs.cmu.edu> lindsay@gandalf.cs.cmu.edu (Donald Lindsay) writes: > The breakthrough I'd like to see, is chip vias. For the hardware- > impaired, what I mean is, I'd like to see signal paths between the two > surfaces of a chip. I'd like to take a stack of naked chips, and then > solder them together into a solid cube. I just heard a talk by Kai Hwang who reported that Hughes labs has produced 4" wafers in stacks of 6 that implement an array of processors 32x32 in size! He only had one slide on this, and he said he had taken it from Hughes. The specs I can remember said that 1" square of the wafer contained circuitry. It was all CMOS, and at 10MHz consumed 1.3W. I believe that the processors they are talking about are bit sliced - but I'm not sure. They have plans for much larger scale (512x512 procs) on 6" wafers, sometime around '93. Meanwhile I personally feel that this type of technology has *lots* of obstacles to overcome. 1 - heat (obviously). 2- fault tolerance to an unheard of degree. Think about it, if a single wafer has a fault in a column the system may have to eliminate the entire column to avoid it! 3- I/O how do you think the problem of pin limitation applies to the square/cube law? Overall, not a pretty picture. But *I* sure won't say it can't be done. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Turner (on the Si prairie - UIUC CSRD) UUCP: {ihnp4,seismo,pur-ee,convex}!uiucdcs!uicsrd!turner ARPANET: turner%uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu CSNET: turner%uicsrd@uiuc.csnet *-) Mutants for BITNET: turner@uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu Nuclear Power! (-%