Path: utzoo!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!lll-winken!gauss.llnl.gov!casey From: casey@gauss.llnl.gov (Casey Leedom) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: Canonical request for modem information: 2400+ Message-ID: <20736@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> Date: 21 Feb 89 23:18:11 GMT References: <20335@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV Reply-To: casey@lll-crg.llnl.gov.UUCP (Casey Leedom) Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Lines: 43 | From: Daniel Ho | | > With regard to your recommendation of the MultiTech MultiModem | > MT-224EH, do you know if it will work properly in a dial in application? | > Specifically I'd like to be able to disable "+++" escape permanently. | > It's pure death in a dial in application. | | Absolutely. You can set a dip-switch so that the modem will ignore | AT commands completely. But I don't want to turn off the AT commands. All I want to do is disable the "+++" escape. The "+++" escape is only useful for interactive dial out use. For everything else it's totally useless. When I use my modems for dial out applications they're under the control of a program which can lower and raise DTR to get the modem's attention. Since almost no one talks to a modem directly, preferring instead to use one terminal emulation package or another, the "+++" is one of the least used features of a Hayes compatible modem. It's certainly not justified to make it impossible to turn off. I would guess that 99% of all modem applications don't want it in fact. But it's rare that I've seen a modem manufacturer who understands this. It's like the continual brain damage we're forced to live with with regard to CAPS locks. Nearly totally useless keys, but available on all terminals placed in a high finger target area where they're most likely to be accidentally and inconveniently typed. Put the idiot key way off to the side where I'm not going to hit it accidentally. It's low usage doesn't justify its current highly prominent position. The same goes for the "+++" in band escape. Give me the capability to get the idiot feature out of my way. This is not a flame at you, it's just an old gripe that I get totally fumed about every time I have to deal with modem manufacturers who seem to think that the only use for a modem is dial out interactive. Again I have to ask: what do they think is on the other end of the line? A tin can on a string?? I don't think I'm asking for too much. The Start Team 1200 had a dip switch to do this. Putting S2 (I believe that's the proper register for the escape character) in non-volatile memory and giving me semantics like escape-char > 127 implies that escape is non-functional. Casey