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From: jellinghaus-robert@CS.Yale.EDU (Rob Jellinghaus)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel
Subject: Eiffel release 2.1...
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Date: 16 Feb 89 05:19:22 GMT
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Reply-To: jellinghaus-robert@CS.Yale.EDU (Rob Jellinghaus)
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept, New Haven CT  06520-2158
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Yale just received the Eiffel tools package, and after spending just
a short while (<1 day) playing with it, I have a couple of questions:

1) Is ee really any use?  Was it just included to pique our curiosity,
   or are people out there using it for production software?  Considering
   that I just recently started it up on a terminal with a screwed-up
   termcap entry, and it went haywire and now seems to be broken, I would
   doubt it....

2) The -S option in ee seems virtually useless; issuing "ee -S eiffeltest.e"
   yields an "Entry not parsed" or some such message, where eiffeltest.e
   is one of the demo files.  Is it possible to use ee to edit valid Eiffel
   files that ee did not create?

3) Do the X-based tools in the 2.1 release package function under X11R3?
   We haven't had much luck getting good to come up.

4) Is version 2.2 nearing completion?  Will it fix any or all of the above
   problems?

5) Why is this newsgroup so inactive?  I've seen several postings go
   unanswered.  Please, in a group with as little traffic as this, follow-up
   rather than using electronic mail!  (Actually, to be perfectly candid,
   I'm not really expecting a response to this posting, judging from the
   lack of activity on this group of late.  I'm hoping, though!)  The old
   Eiffel mailing list was *extremely* active compared to the newsgroup,
   which is rather strange considering the newsgroup *should* have a much
   wider distribution.

6) *Is* there a Mac version of Eiffel in the works?  (I've got a Mac II and
   I sure would like to have Eiffel on it.)

Please respond to this article even if you know very little.  I'd like to
confirm that there are some people who know something out there...

...and does Bertrand Meyer still read this newsgroup?  If so, could we have
an Eiffel progress report?  (Is Champ-de-Mars v.1 n.5 (or v.2 n.1) out yet?)

Rob Jellinghaus                | "Next time you see a lie being spread or a
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