Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!eecae!netnews.upenn.edu!rutgers!bellcore!texbell!uhnix1!sugar!ficc!karl From: karl@ficc.uu.net (karl lehenbauer) Newsgroups: comp.os.misc Subject: Re: Unix bigotry Summary: asdf Message-ID: <3101@ficc.uu.net> Date: 15 Feb 89 15:54:42 GMT References: <117@spectra.COM> <692@cvbnet2.UUCP> Organization: Ferranti International Controls Lines: 42 From article <117@spectra.COM>, by pace@spectra.COM (William B. Pace): > Those who think that Unix is a 'clean' OS have never looked at AOS code. > THAT's a clean system. Unix, bless it's tin soul, is NOT a clean OS, despite > what Unix boosters want to say. ... OK, it's great and squeaky clean (I guess). Does it run on an incredibly wide range of incompatible hardware from a gamut of different manafacturers, as Unix (bless its tin soul) does? Although the various Unix bashers each have their own ideas of what's better, none of them provide the vendor and architecture independence of Unix. If you run AOS, VMS, NOS, CMS, TSO, Multics, MS-DOS, OS/2, etc, *you are locked in* to a vendor and a product line. If you have a lot of money and don't care to pay a high premium for hardware and software, that's fine. Even the U.S. government (cf. $5 billion AFCAC Unix deal, GAO endorsement, AFIPS Unix standard, etc) no longer has these sentiments. What will VMS proponents tell prospective buyers now that it costs several hundred thousand dollars for a VMS-capable machine having the equivalent computational performance of a Unix-based DECstation 3100? NOS as an alternative to Unix? Ha. Consider that NOS only runs on expensive mainframes. Consider also that CDC's highest performance machines, the ETA series, are available with Unix System V. Can't you get a native Unix for the Cray, now, too? The writing is on the wall, gentlepeople. You can sit in your corner with technology that's incompatible from what almost everyone else has, and maybe do wonderful things. Your technology may even be superior in some ways. But you take a big hit in that there aren't a lot of other people generating software for your machine -- you'll have to do a lot of it yourselves, meaning a lot of stuff you'd like won't get written, plus economies of scale may be such that a database package costs $100K instead of $1K. Savvy customers, especially those burned by the high cost of converting software from one incompatible software and hardware architecture to another are find, are going to Unix in droves, and while everyone has their pet peeves about Unix (including me), I think it is a reasonable platform for future development and do not see any architecture-independent operating system capable of challenging it at this time. -- -- uunet!ficc!karl "An expression of deep worry and concern failed to -- karl@ficc.uu.net cross either of Zaphod's faces." -- Hitchiker's Guide