Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!elroy!orion.cf.uci.edu!uci-ics!venera.isi.edu!raveling From: raveling@vaxb.isi.edu (Paul Raveling) Newsgroups: comp.os.misc Subject: Re: Unix bigotry Message-ID: <7541@venera.isi.edu> Date: 16 Feb 89 17:26:21 GMT References: <117@spectra.COM> <692@cvbnet2.UUCP> <3101@ficc.uu.net> Sender: news@venera.isi.edu Reply-To: raveling@isi.edu (Paul Raveling) Organization: USC-Information Sciences Institute Lines: 34 In article <3101@ficc.uu.net> karl@ficc.uu.net (karl lehenbauer) writes: > >Although the various Unix bashers each have their own ideas of what's better, >none of them provide the vendor and architecture independence of Unix. That doesn't mean it can't be done -- it just means that it's hard to find anyone who's willing to buck the marketing risk of developing a new system that might have to run a race against the "standard UNIX" bandwagon, no matter how much better another system may promise to be. MACH is probably the best bet at present, thanks to a layer to allow BSD compatibility. I only regret that this seems to be the only viable competitor -- computing could benefit by having more candidates for a better "standard" operating system. >The writing is on the wall, gentlepeople. You can sit in your corner with >technology that's incompatible from what almost everyone else has, and >maybe do wonderful things. Your technology may even be superior in some >ways. Darn right. Living in a "standard" UNIX architecture has presented our project with software engineering obstacles that we haven't surmounted. Our last conclusion was that in essence we'd need to build an OS kernel over UNIX in order to meet our needs. That's the hard way -- it would be easier to build the kernel under UNIX, as in MACH, but that wouldn't be "standard". ---------------- Paul Raveling Raveling@isi.edu