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From: martillo@cpoint.UUCP (Joacim Martillo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc
Subject: Re: Why Unix is good (was Re: Unix bigotry) LONG
Message-ID: <2059@cpoint.UUCP>
Date: 20 Feb 89 17:38:44 GMT
References: <117@spectra.COM> <692@cvbnet2.UUCP> <3101@ficc.uu.net> <285@bnr-fos.UUCP> <497@cwjcc.CWRU.Edu>
Reply-To: martillo@cpoint.UUCP (Joacim Martillo)
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp., Hopkinton Mass.
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In article <497@cwjcc.CWRU.Edu> edvax@skybridge.UUCP (Ed Reznichenko) writes:
:In article <285@bnr-fos.UUCP> schow@bnr-public.UUCP (Stanley Chow) writes:

::Willaim B. Pace claims in <1170@spectra.COM> that AOS code is much
::cleaner than Unix code.

::Karl lehenbauer replies in <31010ficc.uu.net: saying so what? Given

::  - No concept of full screen graphics. Unix seems to be still firmly
::    tied to the day of 75 baud teletypes. (I know about X-windows
::    and such, in fact I am using it right now). All the commands
::    seem to be designed to minimize typing or half-duplex echo time.

::  - I am sitting here typing this note in "vi" - the so called
::    full screen editior of choice (see the man pages). I have used
::    editors a decade ago that were better. (I use Micro-Emacs at home
::    on my Amiga, but even that still reeks of teletype).
::    For text editing, I will take a locally attached IBM 3278-4 anytime
::    (since I can then use XEDIT and REXX).

:------------------------------------

:This poster is asking for it. 

:<BEGIN World War III: <ICBM's launched:

:Are you totally lobotomized? Why do you post this crap?  Xedit makes
:edlin look heavensent. XEDIT? No concept of scrolling. To do simple
:things you have to go to the margin and type tons of stupid commands.
:What OS do you like? DOS/VSE? VM/CMS? IBM writing an OS that's useable
:for anything but controlling my bank account, surely you jest? I don't 
:want to see that ugly thing again in my life or I will seriously start
:considering murder. What? you don't like grep? Do regexp like ^[A-Z0-9]\/
:scare you? If so why don't you tune in to another channel and program
:in VS COBOL or whatever that crap is called these days. Can you even
:imagine INTERACTIVE operating systems? Do you miss batch cards?

:Thank you for starting a religious war.

:<END World War III: <Peace treaty signed:

:edvax@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu
:{
:"follow-ups" : /dev/null
:(void)unlink("/dev/null");
:halt();
:}

:Time travel is so dangerous it makes H-bombs seem like perfectly
:safe gifts for children and imbeciles.

Personally, I could vomit when I see someone arguing that Unix sucks
because he or she does not like the command interpreter which in a
correctly designed operating system is not part of the operating system
and should be easily replaceable.  Now, I see people totally devoid of
any understanding of OS theory arguing Unix is bad because Unix does not
know anything about screen graphics !!!???!!! Give me one good reason
why an operating system should know anything about screen graphics!
Clearly a lot of people known nothing about how to partition problems.