Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!CS.WM.EDU!fjmora From: fjmora@CS.WM.EDU (Fredric Mora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: MMU GLUE chip clip 0 files message Message-ID: <8902240732.AA09221@nh.wmcs.uucp> Date: 24 Feb 89 07:32:10 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 60 In message dated 3 Feb 89 07:28:44 GMT, C. Squibby Breyman, who seemed to be pissed off by hardware problems, writes: > I like my ST for small applications. I am not going to > suggest that it even be considered for serious processing > applications(computer music synthesis) As I did not see the smile sign, I assume Mr. Breyman is doing some bashing here. I'll not put here the figures of the North-American MIDI market, but the ST holds about 35% of this market, more than any competitor. Now, if you want some references, here are some people who use our not-for-serious-user-computer just for that: Fleetwood Mac (despite the name:-) ), Pointer Sisters, Tangerine Dream, Jean-Michel Jarre (of Houston mega-show fame). I personally saw an ST be used in the street by musicians performing at a festival, and the 1040's were NOT tenderly handled (and that's a mild understatement). In 3 months of daily rough handling, no problem showdd. And the ST's were already a year old. So don't blame the whole line for a small percentage of bad sockets. About quality control, I witnessed a spontaneous combustion of an IBM PC-AT (IBM, folks! Not a cheap clone!) motherboard which fried under our horrified gaze. It was 2 or 3 year old. Moral: even brand computers can have faulty chips or mechanical parts. About components quality: a few years ago, I was working at a chip factory making 68000's under Motorola license. One day, a commercial guy came to our technical support office, fuming: he had a discussion with an Atari representative about a batch of 68000 CPUs and he was furious because the price asked by Atari ($6 apiece or so) was about the production price! He made us understand was he thought about those toy makers who want to buy so cheap and therefore sacrifice quality. Then, a few days later, the same commercial guy had a meeting with an executive from Apple. Serious company, high-end hardware, this would be a grrreat contract.... The guy came back, almost crying. Apple wanted the 68000's at $5.50 apiece. "Any similarity with real company would be a far-fetched coincidence." Come on, Squibby, flame the ST for what it deserves flaming (mostly week support from Atari), but recognize its good technical standing. Regards, Frederic Mora GEnie: The College of William and Mary F.MORA Dept. of Computer Science INTERNET: Williamsburg, VA. 23185 fjmora@cs.wm.edu USA ************************************************************************** * * * "Was uns nicht toetet, macht uns staerker." * * Friedrich Nietzsche * * What does not kill us makes us stronger * * * ************************************************************************** - Come, come, little line eater, I won't harm you (evil grin)... - Come, come, little line eater, I won't harm you (evil grin)... - Come, come, little line eater, I won't harm you (evil grin)...