Xref: utzoo comp.sys.atari.st:14303 comp.sys.apple:10383 comp.sys.mac:27444 comp.sys.ibm.pc:25348 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!decwrl!sun!pitstop!sundc!seismo!uunet!portal!cup.portal.com!Bob_BobR_Retelle From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.apple,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Right of reply, virus- public, private- a thin line Message-ID: <15139@cup.portal.com> Date: 26 Feb 89 21:29:45 GMT References: <699@orbit.UUCP> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 43 Responding to various messages about viruses... I agree that knowledge of the *existance* of viruses can be helpful.. I disagree that *specifics* of viruses, either source code, or *descriptions* of how viruses work, can do anything other than guarantee their spread. It's true that the information necessary to create a virus is available, IF you know where to look, and IF you are experienced enough to make use of that information. Those who are advanced enough to do this *may* be responsible enough to avoid using that information harmfully... I agree that there is *no way* to prevent anyone from using information obtained through independant research like this, in a harmful way.. What I don't think is either helpful, or responsible, is to distill that information and make it public, so those who might not otherwise be able to use this *specific* information maliciously can take the work and expand upon it. (Maybe they'll take their anti-social tendencies and do something else, like trying to break into Government computers) I know how an Atom Bomb works.. that knowledge is NOT going to save me if anyone uses one... similarly, knowing the genetic makeup of the AIDS virus won't protect anyone.. Even if my friend the print shop owner had known chapter and verse of how Macintosh viruses work, it STILL wouldn't have prevented his hard drive from being trashed. The number of people who can make use of specific information about computer viruses for *good* purposes is probably quite small, when compared with the potential for abuses. My point is, the average *user* cannot protect himself with knowledge of *how* a virus works.. he needs a *practical application* he can run. In the Atari ST world, we have several good virus killers, notably the work of George Woodside in particular. Knowing *how* a virus works is *not* going to help to use George's program. All it's going to do is to help someone to write a new virus. Far from hurting thousands of computer users by surpressing the *specifics* of viruses, I think they would be FAR MORE at risk if the information is made public. BobR