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From: dr@cs.columbia.edu (David Robinowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: SE/30 vs IIx vs IIxc (IIx jr. :-) )
Keywords: SE/30 IIx AUX Pros/Cons
Message-ID: <108@cs.columbia.edu>
Date: 15 Feb 89 21:59:35 GMT
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
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This is a discussion about the SE/30 etc. So if you're not looking for
a new MAC or interested in them, keep going!

Back in the Fall, I was interested in getting a MAC, but, everyone
said,"wait 'til January -- when the SE/030 will come out...."  So I
waited, and now everyone is saying, wait until March -- when the IIcx
[the IIx with three nu-bus slots] comes out."  I'm sure in May (when
they actually are available) people will say, wait until the IIx-II
comes out, with a 33MHz 68030 and static RAM caching system......

Well, at this rate, I'll never get one. :-) So, here's a discussion of
all I've found out about the two machines.

		SE/030				IIcx
Price						
Base Model
	Retail   $3499				?
	AUC     $2600-2850	  		?
Street Price:    $~3100				?
----------------------------------------------------------------
System Card: Identical :-)			:-)
Expansion Slot:  Direct Slot			Nu Bus/3 Slots :-)
		3rd party expansion
		slot will be available
		from "Super-Wave"
		Retail Price: >$2000.00
		Will give you 8 nu-bus
		Slots + power supply, etc.
Monitor:      Mac SE Monitor Internal :-(	Nu Bus Monitor Card :-)
	      DIrect Slot Cards			
		*Supermac ($$$) color
		*E-Machines
		others? ***
FDHD: BOth        :-)				:-)
Ethernet Board:  Soon to be available 		Available Nu-Bus cards
		 (Kinetics) :-}			:-)
DSP Boards:      Digidesign :-)			Digidesign/and others :-)
AUX:             Runs but not officially        No prob.
		 Supported  :-|			:-)
Transportable:   :-)				:-(

*** Rumor has it that Apple will announce its own large screen
monitors and boards (was that in MacWeek??) in March.  Perhaps a card
for the SE/30.


The bottom line seems to be: portable vs expandable.  
However, if the expansion chasis (at discount prices) + SE/30 turns
out to be cheaper than the MAC II jr., would there be any disadvantage
to buying the /30 with chasis?  (I know, what if the chasis doesn't
work...etc.)  In this way, one could purchase the SE/30 --have a
complete system from  "go".  Then, one could buy the expansion chasis,
a nu-bus monitor card and monitor, and have a large screen for home
use.  If future products require a slot, no problem!  Then again, with
the IIcx, one's getting true-blue MAC.    Any ideas?  Should I wait?

Thanks!
Dave