Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!think!ephraim From: ephraim@think.COM (Ephraim Vishniac) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: MacII system crashes Keywords: Mac II, system crashes Message-ID: <36459@think.UUCP> Date: 16 Feb 89 18:04:48 GMT References: <418@salgado.stan.UUCP> <2282@unmvax.unm.edu> Sender: news@think.UUCP Reply-To: ephraim@think.com (Ephraim Vishniac) Distribution: usa Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA Lines: 34 In article <2282@unmvax.unm.edu> mark@sleepy.cs.unm.edu () writes: >The most common error I have gotten is ID=01, but I have also gotten >errors ID=05, 11, and 23. The programs include Video Works Player, >Dungeons of Doom, Megaroids, Adventures of Snake, Hendrix, Pretty >Good Terminal (PGT), and MacTest 7.0. Some of these programs were broken not by the Mac II, but by System Tools 5.0. With that release, Apple commenced using a previously unused but reserved location in low memory. It turned out that some programs, especially programs compiled with Megamax C, used that location. I'm certain this is the problem with Megaroids and Adventures of Snake. There was a simple patch for this particular problem, but it won't help Megaroids, which also did screen-flipping animation. It's also of marginal help to Snake, because Snake uses software timing instead of pacing itself by the system clock. That is, it's essentially unplayable on a Mac II even after the patch. Hendrix generates sound and is very old; it's probably broken with respect to the different sound hardware on the Mac II. MacTest 7.0 is probably hardware-specific to classic Macs. >The question I have is: Is the Mac II really that incompatible with >other Macs? And is there any hope for my running these programs? The Mac II's hardware is substantially different. Touching the hardware directly has always been a risky thing, but many people did it anyway. Ephraim Vishniac ephraim@think.com Thinking Machines Corporation / 245 First Street / Cambridge, MA 02142-1214 "Arlo Guthrie, it seems, has found what he was looking for: God, and the Macintosh." (Boston Globe)