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From: lsn@romeo.cs.duke.edu (Lars S. Nyland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: LS Pascal <--> Radius Interference causes crash
Keywords: Init's, crashing
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Date: 17 Feb 89 21:52:23 GMT
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Using LightSpeed pascal (v 2.0), I found that my machine would hang
(wristwatch never go away, menu header never unhighlighted, etc).  This
was confusing, since it works so well on other macII's and se's around.

It must be one of my (many) inits, right?  Right!  Using "init cdev" I played
around turning init's off and on, and came to the conclusion the LSP would
only hang if I had Radius' II Display running.  I tried it as the only one on,
the machine hung.  I then turned everything else on and turned it off.  LSP
ran as expected.  (Thanks to the author of init cdev...).

Anybody got suggestions on how to deal with this (other than avoiding the
two at the same time)?

Opinion of radius software:  It is almost essential to have the large menu
bars since the pixels are small.  It is nice to have tear-off menus.  But the
software has caused problems in more ways than one.  (Heirarchical menus from
apple, and tearoff menus from radius, and menus from OnCue lead to very
interesting results).

I just thought of something else.  The DA []Edit (put an apple in place of [])
that comes with LSP doesn't work very well with the Radius large menus.  The
fonts used in dialogs is too big, but the spacing is left the same, causing
the files, etc to overlap one another.

And then there is the interference between FullWrite's menu handling and
Radius', making the tool FWP diddler essential.

I guess its time to throw out Radius' init.