Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!ucla-cs!flowers From: flowers@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Margot Flowers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: bibliography tool Keywords: word processing Message-ID: <20779@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> Date: 19 Feb 89 18:20:50 GMT References: <7208@paris.ics.uci.edu> <83376@felix.UUCP> Sender: news@CS.UCLA.EDU Reply-To: flowers@cs.ucla.edu (Margot Flowers) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 49 >In article <7208@paris.ics.uci.edu> roy@bonnie.ics.uci.edu ( John Roy) writes: > kehr@felix.UUCP (Shirley Kehr) writes: >You might want to check out the February issue of MacUser which reviews >Pro-Cite and EndNote. I decided on Pro-Cite because of more flexibility >and printing from the program, but EndNote (which is cheaper and got a >better rating) is designed to work with your Word Processor. That review was really strange, because, while it did cover a lot of the features and functionality of both systems, at least for Endnote it was very inaccurate in some of the negatives. In particular, the reviewer specifically mentioned that it could not be used to print out bibliographies. Hmmm -- that is one of the things I find EndNote great for. I talked to one of the people from Niles Software (producers of EndNote) and he said he didn't know why the reviewer said that, and that he was even a friend of theirs. [I have no idea how accurate the review was for ProCite.] The reviewer also said that it didn't have the kind of search flexibility he wanted, yet from what he described EndNote seems to provide it (cumulative and/or searching based on author, year, or other text -- not as extensive from what I understand as ProCite but pretty flexible). I'm finding EndNote easy to use with pretty much all the functionality I'm used to from Scribe and LaTex bibliography systems, with the convenience of a mac & DA interface. In filter mode it can insert references only in certain document types (Word & a few others) but you can also do copy/pasting from EndNote (either application or DA) to handle reference pasting, using whatever format style the user picks or defines, for other word processors (e.g. I'm using it now with FullWrite). One problem is that EndNote will do "copy formatted" (e.g. preserve info of font, size, style) but so far, according to Niles, nobody supports "pasting formatted", so in DA mode you have to add italics etc. yourself. I really like the fact that it is independent of word processor, so that my bibliographies that I build up work no matter what the current word processor whims are. --- What is it with reviewers? The recent review of financial and tax packages in Macazine (or somewhere else, I forget) was full of similar inaccuracies, describing package X as having a certain feature when other packages in the same review had the same feature, or describing MacInTax as missing bunches of forms that exist in my version of it, etc... Margot Flowers Flowers@CS.UCLA.EDU ...!(uunet,rutgers,ucbvax,randvax)!cs.ucla.edu!flowers