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From: werner@utastro.UUCP (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: DiskFit 1.5 upgrade information
Message-ID: <3655@utastro.UUCP>
Date: 26 Feb 89 18:43:21 GMT
References: <1238@dogie.edu>
Organization: U. Texas, Astronomy, Austin, TX
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In article <1238@dogie.edu>, myers@vms.macc.wisc.edu (jeff myers) writes:
> In <14997@cup.portal.com>, Fabian@cup.portal.com (Fabian Fabe Ramirez) writes
> 
> >DataFrame owners can download a "DataFrame-specific" ("df") version from ...
> > comp.binaries.mac (once Werner and Roger connect), or for those
> >with FTP access you can get it from RASCAL.ICS.UTEXAS.EDU.
> 
> Thanks for your posting, Fabian.  It would be wonderful if you could
> see that the archives at sumex-aim.stanford.edu get a copy of the df
> specific version as a Binhex of a Stuffit.
> 
> The problem is that RASCAL and SIMTEL20 both store their archived Mac
> files as binaries, and many VMS users have access only to an old,
> broken version of XMODEM.  You may also wish to distribute it via
> comp.binaries.mac (or did I miss it while on vacation?).

	RASCAL also offers a more up-to-date version of xmodem,
	so why not get it and fix your problem of xmodem?

	I had offered the DF-software to both SUMEX and our comp.binaries
	moderator but, unfortunately, neither one responded (and I know
	that they DO receive my mail).  At the time, I had the hqx-files
	available online and waiting for their response.

	BTW, as soon as a way can be figured out to keep Bitnet supplied
	with the files in binary format, SUMEX will change also;  so you
	may as well put some effort into getting kermit and xmodem
	up-to-date on your machines.  I really cannot see why the sites
	that volunteer to make archives available (and a lot of work that
	is) should also waste twice the disk-space to keep files available
	in hqx rather than bin-format.  On RASCAL, I do keep virus-related
	files in both formats (i.e. I use tripple the space neccessary
	for just binary files), but sometimes later this year I anticipate
	discontinueing that practice also.

	I simpathize with people who have trouble downloading binary
	format files (and I hear lots of that) but I don't understand
	why they don't put more effort into getting decent communication
	software installed and distributed - give me a break and get the
	communications-guru on your machine to obtain and install the
	latest communications software that will make it possible for
	you to up/download binary files; after all, it will also speed up
	the process and thus benefit your site.  Some people tell me
	that only when files are available in binary-ONLY will some sites
	get motivated to invest the effort to get their own software
	problems fixed, and while that is not the case everywhere, I sure
	know of a few such sites that need their arms twisted.

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