Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cornell!uw-beaver!blake!lgl From: lgl@blake.acs.washington.edu (Laurence G Lundblade) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: NeXT source, how will they be used? Message-ID: <890@blake.acs.washington.edu> Date: 15 Feb 89 05:44:21 GMT Organization: Univ of Washington, Seattle Lines: 44 It seems to me that it is important to consider how sources would be used in this university versus developer debate. Perhaps the deabte isn't so serious, for much of the use of sources at the university will be to fix security holes (especialy related to the Internet), implement local access policies to public machines, and accomodate unusual peripherals and lab equipment. I don't see how these changes will break many applications. The other use one might find at a university is good honest systems research and developement. It will be in the univsersities interest to maintain as much compatibility as possible, and those with these modified systems will take responsibility for broken applications. At the least NeXT will learn what extentions they don't want to do at a pretty low cost. Commercial system developers probably care the most about corporate and commercial clients with lots of dollars. These customers are going to want the purest, approved original system and not some university mutant. Certainly anyone hacking the system source to make their little application work should be flamed, get bad reviews in Byte and scowled at by NeXT, universitites and other comercial developers. Are there developers that would do this given the chance? That is I think source can be given to the universties with little negative effect, and some positive effect to commercial developers. I think it is poor to compare the case histories of Mac and Sun to each other for they were targeted at totaly different markets and come from very different world views. NeXT is very interesting because it is trying to be both. This is a hard place to be. (keep that asbestos on, NeXT) I think most will agree that UNIX, DEC and Mac have benefitted by having ties with universities in that the products were improved and that a generation of users and progammers grew up on these systems. Wouldn't NeXT like to maximize that benefit and give us source? Even if we don't really need it, how about just to be nice and make us feel happy? .....Laurence lgl@cac.washington.edu Networks and Distributed Computing 206-534-5617 University of washington