Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!apple!oliveb!amiga!boing!dale From: dale@boing.UUCP (Dale Luck) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: A Thought on X Terminals Message-ID: <644@boing.UUCP> Date: 24 Feb 89 02:34:34 GMT References: <19613@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <611@gt-eedsp.UUCP> <4921@xenna.Encore.COM> <13216@steinmetz.ge.com> <4965@xenna.Encore.COM> Reply-To: dale@boing.UUCP (Dale Luck) Distribution: comp Organization: Boing, Milpitas, Ca. Lines: 39 In article <4965@xenna.Encore.COM> bzs@Encore.COM (Barry Shein) writes: > >The point still stands. Postulating hypothetical non-swapping OS's >isn't much of a refutation either, when one shows up, and is actually >useful, perhaps it's worth talking about. We have X running on a non-swapping real memory system. Seems to run just fine. Make sure you set the stack to the right amount (about 20k) seems to do fine for most X applications. Puzzle does grow to around 40k or so when recusively solving the thing. I have an X monochrome server that supports both tcp/ip-ethernet or decnet-serial plus uwm running locally and the local operating system still running in a 1M Amiga 500. All the code fits on one 880K floppy of which there is one built into the A500. I did strip the fonts down to a bare minimum. With the ethernet I only need about 2M of NFS for all the rest of the compressed fonts. Most of the other applications require about 100k-200k apiece, like xcalc, xclock, bitmap, etc. This is using non shared libraries which are one of the amiga's strong points. I expect the typical Amiga X system to be an A2000 loaded with an extra 2M of memory. So you really don't need 8M of real memory or more virtual, nor do you need 20mbytes of harddisk space for the binaries plus all the other operating system program to just get going. I'm sure we'll see more of this with os/2 (well maybe not ;-) ). Those 286/386 pc's running xenix or whatever and X are probably capable of stripping down to a bare minimum to only run X as well. > > -Barry Shein, ||Encore|| -- Dale Luck GfxBase/Boing, Inc. {uunet!cbmvax|pyramid}!amiga!boing!dale