Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!ncar!boulder!uswat!zeb!timw From: timw@zeb.USWest.COM Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: RE: Transfer of Instincts through Genetics Message-ID: <1681@uswat.UUCP> Date: 22 Feb 89 14:55:17 GMT Sender: news@uswat.UUCP Reply-To: timw@zeb.USWest.COM () Distribution: usa Lines: 47 Thanks for the responses to me query regarding the transfer of instincts and other behavioral traits to succeeding generations through genetics. I'm puzzled. If we agree that an animal is born with certain instinctive characteristics (do we agree on this ?, leave homo sapien out of the picture, whole 'nother topic ?), I contend that genetically defined information determining these characteristics ABSOLUTELY MUST be transferred to the offspring. Where did this information originate ? I don't think it happened overnight. Some salmonid at some point had to have learned that if it didn't swim away from a shadow, it would be Osprey lunch. The Osprey missed this first 'instinct void' fish because it was old and feable. So, unless we're talking creationism vs. evolution, instincts are (1) learned and 2) passed on (IMVHO). Further, I conclude that, a wild, sulf-sustaining population of trout, in a strict catch and release zone, will become very difficult to catch, and when caught will not fight well. In the relatively short term (3 to 4 generations of fish, 8-15 years), these fish will be wary, at the very least, but not necessarily because their parents were wary (of fly-fishermen tactics), but because that group of fish that more pronouncedly avoids fishermen will survive. There WILL be some mortality resultant from our catch and release methodologies. You can't aim a hook at a fish's brain 100 times and expect it not to get hurt. In the relatively medium term (15-100 years), this fishery will be called 'challenging', 'sporting' and 'difficult'. In the case of an extremely pressured (by fishermen) fishery, this population will experience an over-population, since the natural predators have been thinned by human presence. Thus mortality by disease and starvation will increase (cyclic). In the relatively long term (100-10000 years), the fish will become more and more difficult to catch, and will be very poor fighters as it is not beneficial to expend the energy. Sportfishing for trout in this fishery will be extremely difficult and not rewarding. But, what other problems will impact the fishery in the meantime ? Tim Walker Littleton, Colorado