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From: sarima@gryphon.COM (Stan Friesen)
Newsgroups: sci.research,talk.politics.misc,sci.bio
Subject: Re: animal research
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Date: 23 Feb 89 20:18:40 GMT
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Reply-To: sarima@gryphon.COM (Stan Friesen)
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In article <593@orbit.UUCP> avatar@pnet51.cts.com (Timothy Fay) writes:
>skellyjp@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (James P Skelly) writes:
>>This is wrong.  There is no substitute for the use of animals in medical
>>research nor is animal research cruel to the animals...
>
>I can accept that, under certain conditions, some animal research MAY be
>necessary.  But please spare us this baloney that animal research isn't
>cruel to the animals.  It IS cruel and, someday hopefully, it will also
>be unnecessary.

	This sounds very nice, but HOW will animal research become unnecessary!
As long as there is any relevent aspect of animal physiology or behavior
that is unknown the only way of discovering it will be experimentation.
Remember, simulations are only useful for revealing the implications of
what we already know, they cannot actually provide new basic data. Or
are you imagining some other method of gaining radical new knowledge?
If so tell us what it is, we would like to know how to discover new things
without experimentation.
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Sarima Cardolandion			sarima@gryphon.CTS.COM
aka Stanley Friesen			rutgers!marque!gryphon!sarima
					Sherman Oaks, CA