Path: utzoo!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!helios.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!humu!uhccux!lee From: lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Greg Lee) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Question on Chinese Room Argument Message-ID: <3395@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Date: 6 Mar 89 19:50:12 GMT References: <7431@polya.Stanford.EDU> Organization: University of Hawaii Lines: 16 From article <7431@polya.Stanford.EDU>, by geddis@polya.Stanford.EDU (Donald F. Geddis): " ... " I agree that complexity arguments are not important for this thought " experiement. ... I doubt you should agree. What kind of "non-symbolic" computations can't be modeled by symbolic ones? Those which would require too many symbols or rules, I suppose. If that is the only difficulty, complexity is an important issue. Then to argue the (in)feasibility of a life-like robot we would need to estimate the number of "distinct" brain-states that could be caused by perception, to establish at least whether it is finite. This seems to me to be the most plausible direction to pursue to salvage Harnad's arguments. Greg, lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu