Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!lll-winken!xanth!ukma!gatech!hubcap!ncrcae!ncr-sd!hp-sdd!hplabs!hpda!hpwala!cfisun!ima!spdcc!merk!alliant!linus!mbunix!bwk From: bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry W. Kort) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Chinese Room argument Summary: I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I sit and I understand. Keywords: Chair and /char/ alike. Message-ID: <46017@linus.UUCP> Date: 7 Mar 89 23:52:00 GMT References: <2125@star.cs.vu.nl> Sender: news@linus.UUCP Reply-To: bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry Kort) Organization: The TaoLight Zone, Ste. Elsewhen Lines: 36 Karl Kluge, who is evidently a silicon-based symbol cruncher, writes: > My production of a piece of text is not affected by your changing the > denotation of the symbols occuring in it. However, this does *not* > imply that I process the text in the same way as a computer processes it. > How did *you* ever come to "know" the denotations of words/symbols > in your mind? To which Roel Wieringa responds: > I don't know; we should turn to empirical research on developmental > psychology to get some answers. Consider a child who hears an adult utter the phonetic sequence, /char/, while pointing to this object: | | |___ | | | | Years later, the child hears her teacher utter /char/ while scribbling this cryptic rune on the blackboard: CHAIR It seems to me that the child "understands" when she makes the connection between the tangible, visible object upon which she is sitting, the utterance, /char/, and the scribble "CHAIR". The problem with the LTT, is that only one symbol reposes in the artificial mind, instead of the three inter-related representations of the same real-world object. --Barry Kort