Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!apple!oliveb!amdahl!nsc!andrew From: andrew@nsc.nsc.com (andrew) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: NN Question Summary: trivial and deep levels Message-ID: <10143@nsc.nsc.com> Date: 3 Mar 89 03:16:02 GMT References: <32125@gt-cmmsr.GATECH.EDU> Distribution: usa Organization: National Semiconductor, Santa Clara Lines: 27 Your question is both specious and deep, simultaneously! You might, in the former case, ask what exactly is contributed to a lead guitar solo by the wincing of the soloist.. you'd be quite happy to hear the record (this goes for cello, violin, etc of course!) and implies that a robot might get the final resultant nuances without the contributions of the total emotional structure of the performer. I personally find the excruciating expressions of rock groups hilarious, supporting the "specious" view! Conversely, you can look at this as Carver Mead's plenary speech at the IEEE Conference did - the tip of an iceberg of an immense cognitive system. That's why, to avoid the "AI trap", it's maybe best to start bottom-up, rather than the heretofore conventional psychological/serial-symbolic approach of top-down (macroscopic) behavioural analysis. I guess a lot of this has to do with how interested you are with the actual dynamics of learning. Once learned, things get quite trivial. =========================================================================== ** NOTE - DO NOT USE HEADER FOR REPLY, BUT THIS SIGNATURE ** Andrew Palfreyman, MS D3969 PHONE: 408-721-4788 work National Semiconductor 408-247-0145 home 2900 Semiconductor Dr. there's many a slip P.O. Box 58090 'twixt cup and lip Santa Clara, CA 95052-8090 DOMAIN: andrew@logic.sc.nsc.com ARPA: nsc!logic!andrew@sun.com USENET: ...{amdahl,decwrl,hplabs,pyramid,sun}!nsc!logic!andrew ===========================================================================