Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!decwrl!nsc!news From: news@nsc.nsc.com (Usenet Administration) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: NN Question Summary: ants do it well, though Message-ID: <10149@nsc.nsc.com> Date: 3 Mar 89 08:06:41 GMT References: <32125@gt-cmmsr.GATECH.EDU> <1229@wasatch.UUCP> Distribution: usa Organization: National Semiconductor, Santa Clara Lines: 30 u-jmolse%sunset.utah.edu@wasatch.UUCP (John M. Olsen) writes: > Just as an off-the-cuff observation, it looks to me like any gathering of > (supposedly) independently behaving things (birds, people, models of > neurons) can be looked at as a larger entity. Such an entity could > actually seem to be less complex than it's parts if they interact in > just a small number of ways. I don't think so. Just read the chapter on Ants in "Goedel, Escher, Bach" by Doug Hofstadter to see how the low-bandwidth connection between simple interacting elements (ants) can lead to a complex result like arch-building. Conversely, see how a brain-dead idea like Faschism can overtake the consciousness of millions of interacting complex elements (us). There is a dualism at work here, as with all material phenomena. Forgive the universalist, holistic, mystic, schizoid appearance of this view! The simple may combine to be complex, and vice versa in fact. And all colours in between. =========================================================================== ** NOTE: USE THIS SIGNATURE - NOT HEADER - FOR REPLY ** Andrew Palfreyman, MS D3969 PHONE: 408-721-4788 work National Semiconductor 408-247-0145 home 2900 Semiconductor Dr. there's many a slip P.O. Box 58090 'twixt cup and lip Santa Clara, CA 95052-8090 DOMAIN: andrew@logic.sc.nsc.com ARPA: nsc!logic!andrew@sun.com USENET: ...{amdahl,decwrl,hplabs,pyramid,sun}!nsc!logic!andrew ===========================================================================