Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ukma!rutgers!bellcore!texbell!killer!igloo!bhv From: bhv@igloo.Scum.COM (Bronis Vidugiris) Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d Subject: Re: ZMODEM Message-ID: <1186@igloo.Scum.COM> Date: 2 Mar 89 13:20:36 GMT References: <4700@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM> <5769@homxc.UUCP> Reply-To: bhv@igloo.UUCP (Bronis Vidugiris) Distribution: usa Organization: igloo, Northbrook, IL Lines: 43 In article <5769@homxc.UUCP] marty@homxc.UUCP (M.B.BRILLIANT) writes: ]From article <4700@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM>, by keithe@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM (Keith Ericson): ]> In article <1163@igloo.Scum.COM> bhv@igloo.Scum.COM (Bronis Vidugiris) writes: ]>> ]>>Is there a ZMODEM file transfer program out there that is less 'obnoxious' ]>>than the DSZ from Omen that was recently posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc? ]> ]> The DSZ transfer protocol is NOT free. If you are making regular use of ]> it you deserve to send your payment to Omen Technologies and pay for what ]> you're getting. ]> ]> The only thing "obnoxious" about all this is complaints that people who do ]> (good) work shouldn't be paid. ] ]Right. But if you want to use a whole communications program without ]paying for it, instead of just a protocol implementation without paying ]for it, be advised that TELIX implements ZMODEM as an internal protocol. ] ]You will be obnoxiously reminded that you're a freeloader only once per ]invocation of the comm program, instead of once per upload or download. ]You can even make several data connections per reminder. ] ]And (if memory serves me correctly) you will be stealing $35 instead of ]$20. Of course, if you're already stealing a communications program, ]that's no big deal; you might wind up stealing less in total than you ]are now. I think you are missing the _entire_ point of my article. I am quite able to make my own personal decisions about both the legal AND the ethical importance of paying for shareware. I do not need your advice on this matter. Having already made my own personal decision on the matter (and, if I were truly unconcerened with the ethical implications, as you seem to imply with your postings, I would not have bothered to post), I have decided that my own sense of ethics can best be satisfied by seeking a public domain source for what I believe to be a public domain protocol which was developed for pay. Now, it is possible that I am incorrect about ZMODEM being a public domain protocol - though I sincerely believe that to be the case. It is definitely the case, though, that the original development of ZMODEM was funded by Telenet (see the February issue of Byte). -- bhv@igloo