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From: bhv@igloo.Scum.COM (Bronis Vidugiris)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
Subject: Re: ZMODEM
Keywords: zmodem file transfer cheapskates
Message-ID: <1193@igloo.Scum.COM>
Date: 4 Mar 89 16:06:42 GMT
References: <1163@igloo.Scum.COM= <4700@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM> <1179@igloo.Scum.COM> <634@mccc.UUCP>
Reply-To: bhv@igloo.UUCP (Bronis Vidugiris)
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In article <634@mccc.UUCP= pjh@mccc.UUCP (Pete Holsberg) writes:
=In article <1179@igloo.Scum.COM> bhv@igloo.UUCP (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
==In article <4700@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM> keithe@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM (Keith Ericson) writes:
==>In article <1163@igloo.Scum.COM> bhv@igloo.Scum.COM (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
==>>
==>>Is there a ZMODEM file transfer program out there that is less 'obnoxious'
==
=You can pick up a definition of Y and ZMODEM protocols any number places
=and then write your own comm program.
=I don't understand your attitude.  Have you written to the publishers of
=all commercial comm programs that use X, Y, and/or ZMODEM protocols
=complaining that they are making money from public domain code?  The
=protocols are in PD and will always remain there.  That means that Omen
=or Datastorm or you or I may write software that uses them, yes, even to
=make money.
=Ward has never received a nickel for the concept or the implementation
=Chuck Forsberg writes wonderful software and chooses to (a) shareware
=some and (b) sell other straight commercially.  Who cares whether you
=like him or his attitude.  If you use his software, buy it.  Otherwise,
=don't use it and keep quiet.

I'm sorry you don't understand my attitude.  I don't have any objection to
Forsberg, or anyone else writing shareware software.  I don't even have
any objection to them posting shareware to usenet (though some people do).
I do have objections to shareware which 'preaches' at me - especially
when it seems to me to be misleading.  (I'm still not 100% positive of
the legal status of the ZMODEM protocol - though I believe as you do that
it is public domain, it seems to me that several posters have gotten the
impression that it is a proprietary product of Omen technologies.  I
suspect they have gotten this impression by reading the DSZ documentation).
I have chosen (in this particular instance) not to be quiet about my 
dislike, but to post it.  You don't have to care about my opinions if
you don't want to - *(obviously).  I have recieved some feedback from 
other people who feel somewhat like I do about the docs, a few useful
suggestions for other comm. programs, a few polite{_ disagreements with
my opinions, and a number of rather rude 'flame' type postings like
yours as a result of my posting.  Rather what I expected.

I don't understand why you think I should 'not use the software and keep
quiet'.  Why should I keep quiet?  Especially if I am looking for software
to replace something I don't like.  My dis  ?
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bhv@igloo