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From: sbw@naucse.UUCP (Steve Wampler)
Newsgroups: comp.edu,comp.sys.mac,comp.lang.pascal
Subject: Good teaching pascal for Macs?
Message-ID: <1183@naucse.UUCP>
Date: 2 Mar 89 16:57:52 GMT
Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, AZ
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We will be teaching a low-level programming course using Pascal
on MacIntoshes in the fall.  I'm looking for recommendations
for Pascals to consider for use by the students.  The constraints
are:

	(1) EASE of USE.  These are NOT sophisticated users.  It
		is most likely they have never used a computer before
		and even if they have, have not used a Mac.  The
		Pascal should be runable off a harddisk with student
		files kept on floppies.  For this reason, I'd prefer
		it if the Pascal could be obtained with a site license.

	(2) Good Debugging.  It would be most helpful if the Pascal
		had a debugging mode where students could single step
		through the source, examine variables, etc.

	(3) Suitable documentation.  The Pascal should have accurate,
		clear documentation.  Ideally, it would come packaged
		with a good textbook.

	(4) Cheap.  If we cannot get a site license at a reasonable price,
		then it should be inexpensive for the students to purchase.
		(Note that unless (3) is met well, the students will have
		to buy *both* the Pascal *and* a good text, so a $50 Pascal
		is likely unacceptable unless it includes a good text or
		can be gotten reasonably with a site license.

	(5) Must run in Mac+'s with 1 Meg memory.

Please email me responses, I'll post a summary if there is both interest
and sufficient responses.  Thanks!
-- 
	Steve Wampler
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