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From: mark@apple.com (mark lentczner)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Organizations for Smalltalk/V
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Date: 8 Mar 89 18:39:55 GMT
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Hiho-
I finally broke down and bought Smalltalk/V Mac this past week!  I 
couldn't stand to use the Apple Version 1 System (which I worked on at 
Apple) anymore: no user extendible primatives, not multifinder compatible, 
etc.

Ok, so I get it home and, what?!?!?, no class or method organizations!  
OK, OK, so I spent last night adding them.  WOW!  That is the easiest 
variation of a browser I've ever created with Smalltalk.  (I know I know 
all you with Version 2 and pluggable views are used to this kind of stuff, 
but those of us with old Version 1 MVC aren't.)

So now the questions:
1) There is a problem that new code with organizations will not file into 
systems without them.  I can fix this by supplying two methods that get 
filed into those systems that drop the organization info from the file-in. 
(Assuming the target system doesn't want organizations.)  Does this sound 
reasonable or does anyone else have a better idea?

2) My organizations differ from the classic Smalltalk-80 ones in two 
respects: they are always sorted by group name (ST-80s are in the order 
you put them) and methods and classes can appear in more than one 
group!  This seems like a win for classes:  One can include them in 
several places if it makes sense.  Any comments on this?

I will happy to share the code once it's done (or at least close to done 
:-)

-mark l.