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From: richard@torch.UUCP (Richard Nuttall)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.editors
Subject: Re: UNIX needs a real text editor
Message-ID: <252@torch.UUCP>
Date: 9 Mar 89 09:34:01 GMT
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Organization: TORCH Computers Ltd., Cambridge, England
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>From Ted Holden, HTE:

>About the only good thing I can say about the vi editor, which I've 
>been unsuccessfully trying to avoid for about the last ten years, is 
>that it's a standard.  AT&T should get together with Sammy Mitchell or
>somebody who knows how to construct reasonable modern text editors and
>come out with something up to 1989 standards for a text editor for V.4
>and just get rid of vi which, along with nroff and troff and a couple
>of other items I could mention, cannot possibly be serving any further
>purpose other than as ammunition for the UNIX-haters.

ABSOLUTELY!!!!
I HATE vi.

I have only had to use vi in the last couple of months, before that
I have used decent custmisable editors (WYSIWYG) such as

VAX TPU (a highly customised version of EVE)
APOLLO dm editor
MICROSOFT C5.1 M editor

I am currently trying to find a sensible editor that I can use
on Torch Quad-X, Torch XXX, Sun386, Sun3/60, Sun4, all running
some form of unix or other, both native mode (i.e. suntools) and
with xterm.

I have tried JOVE and am looking at CRISP, but what I really want
is one that, when running X, you can use the mouse to copy around
text, point to a place in the text, and resize windows dynamically
without blowing up the editor. I have heard that a GNU EMACS can do
at least some of this, and am trying to get the sources at the moment.

Does anyone have any other suggestions for customisable WYSIWYG editors
that are portable and work with X ? (I know its asking a lot).

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