Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!GE-CRD.ARPA!EVERHART%ARISIA.decnet From: EVERHART%ARISIA.decnet@GE-CRD.ARPA Newsgroups: comp.risks Subject: Re: reach out and spy on someone Message-ID: <8902281909.AA24523@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 28 Feb 89 14:19:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 27 Approved: risks@csl.sri.com There have been several programs on the DECUS VAX SIG tapes and in other places for this purpose over the years. Best one so far is WATCH which was on the Fall '88 tapes (complete with source). It allows you to monitor what goes on at any other terminal, except DECnet remote terminals (whose internal architecture is very different from all other examples.) When used in conjunction with PHOTO one can very easily obtain a machine readable log of someone else's session. If used also in conjunction with BOSS, one can do this without giving up one's terminal. This involves some extra processes and system diddling, but is not too heavy a load even for a 750. However, watching someone's terminal sessions is not something that's desirable overall due to the generation of lots of junk information. The best way to handle people who are suspect seemed to be to force them in their logins to fire up PHOTO with a logfile that can be read later as needed, then log the session out if PHOTO finished. A logfile created in this way could perhaps be transferred via mail to a holding area where it could be examined and would be outside the security domain of the victim. Since it would be open during the entire session, it could not be deleted from the photo session. (Batch or the like are another matter; a short window would have to exist.) This avoids need for things like WATCH. However, WATCH is very handy for dialins, both to ensure they are attempting nothing dangerous and to offer help as needed. It needs hefty privs to run, but since it's PD, the capability exists in essentially ALL VMS installations. Does Unix have a similar capability? Is it PD? Glenn Everhart everhart%Arisia.decnet@ge-crd.arpa