Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!uccba!uceng!mfinegan From: mfinegan@uceng.UC.EDU (michael k finegan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: 3b2 Questions - Answers Appreciated Summary: good info Keywords: 3b2, hard drives Message-ID: <758@uceng.UC.EDU> Date: 4 Mar 89 19:39:07 GMT References: <7455@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <615@tcsc3b2.UUCP> Followup-To: comp.sys.att Distribution: na Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati, College of Engg. Lines: 38 [...stuff deleted WITHOUT notice!...] In article <615@tcsc3b2.UUCP>, pag@tcsc3b2.UUCP (Philip A. Gross) writes: > In article <7455@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>, hurf@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Hurf Sheldon) writes: > [...stuff deleted...] > > Questions: > > 1; Is there a way to make a bootable floppy system > > magic mode begets > POOF! It took a couple of hours on AT&T phones calling AT&T to get this. Do people realize how lucky they are when they get it easily ? On the other hand, real computer systems (BSD?) tell you in the manual how to install, destroy, and most importantly BOOT the system SINGLE-USER w/wo a hard disk. I even got a return phone call form AT&T service after only asking for the trick, to see if I knew what I was doing. > you will find that you don't even have 'ls', for this you will have > to use 'echo *' in order to get directory listings. In order to 'find' is what I used ... > things such as 'mount' have been defined as functions and are not > available in the normal format. You may want to hack with this on you can still mount, they just changed the name ... > drive, you need to have access to the low level formatting programs. > These are found on releases of what is called DEVTOOLS and more > recently IDTOOLS diskettes. I thought you weren't supposed to know stuff like this? 8-) > > c; Is there a place that rebuilds the drives at an effective cost? > Don't know, but please let me know if you find one. We have a Call CDC @ 1-800-382-6060 (Oklahoma is where they were assembled ...) The rebuild cost is signifigantly less than AT&T or distributor cost ... BTW - have you used the faster clock 32000 series CPU's ? Is it worth the expense, and is there a `best' source $-wise? Mike Finegan mfinegan@uceng.uc.edu finegan@ucece1.san.uc.edu