Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sm.unisys.com!csun!csuna!abcscnge From: abcscnge@csuna.csun.edu (Scott "The Pseudo-Hacker" Neugroschl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: 16 bit cards vs 8, SHAFTED? Message-ID: <1723@csuna.csun.edu> Date: 28 Feb 89 08:07:25 GMT References: <37020@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> <14313@bigtex.cactus.org> Reply-To: abcscnge@csuna.csun.edu (Scott Neugroschl) Organization: CSU Northridge Lines: 36 In article <14313@bigtex.cactus.org> james@bigtex.cactus.org (James Van Artsdalen) writes: ]In <37020@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu>, calhoun@cis.ohio-state.edu (robert r. calhoun) wrote: ] ]> [...] I was asked if I wanted 16 or 8 bit type card, I was told 16 ]> was faster, so I chose it. ] ]Definitely much faster. You can access data 16 bits at a time (in an ]AT), and there are fewer wait states per access (on an AT), though ]this might not be a big deal if the video card inserts large numbers ]of wait states on its own. ] ]> I received the more expensive 16 bit card today (or did I) and it ]> fits in my XT. As a matter of fact I am using it now. I was under the ]> impression 16 bit cards don't fit in XTs. Do I have an 8 bit card? ] ]Bizarre though it may seem, at least some 16 bit cards work just fine ]in an 8 bit slot, with the 16 bit edge extension just hanging there in ]mid-air. The only one I have seen actually do this is the Video-7 16 ]bit VGA card. The hardware people swear this is OK... Intel does this with theiir AboveBoard/286. The card is a 16 bit card. The manual says to leave the AT connector hanging in an XT. I was tempted to put some black tape over the connectors so that it wouldn't have any chance of shorting... Incidentally, I'll make another comment on the AboveBoard -- This is the ONLY card I have ever seen that has the right type of setup, MCA cards included. Intel put a EEPROM on the card so that the setup software burns the prom properly, no switches, no (stupid) .ADF files needed. -- Scott "The Pseudo-Hacker" Neugroschl UUCP: ...!sm.unisys.com!csun!csuna.csun.edu!abcscnge -- "Beat me, whip me, make me code in Ada" -- Disclaimers? We don't need no stinking disclaimers!!!