Xref: utzoo comp.arch:8699 comp.sys.intel:750 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!ucsd!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!esosun!seismo!uunet!steinmetz!davidsen From: davidsen@steinmetz.ge.com (William E. Davidsen Jr) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.sys.intel Subject: Re: i860 overview (long) Message-ID: <13328@steinmetz.ge.com> Date: 9 Mar 89 13:22:34 GMT References: <807@microsoft.UUCP> <92634@sun.uucp> <13322@steinmetz.ge.com> <1133@auspex.UUCP> Reply-To: davidsen@crdos1.UUCP (bill davidsen) Organization: General Electric CRD, Schenectady, NY Lines: 29 Several comments on my earlier posting: (a) I was talking about the general case of machines which don't have byte addressing and fetch a byte using a three step "load, shift, and" and store a byte doing something like "load, and, shift, or, store". I Didn't mean to imply that any particular RISC architecture used that method. The Honeywell 6000 series was an example of not having direct byte addressing (yes you can use a tally word but building it is as slow as the and & ors). If the load and store time for an arbitrary byte are the same as an alligned int, and if load/store byte is a single operation, then I would consider it byte addressable for the purposes of any program I want to run. (b) several people posted results using big Sun4's and little Sun3's. I believe that the tests were done on a Sun3/280 with FPU and a small Sun4 (I don't know the model number). Since troff is FP intensive (at least on a VAX) that may be difference. (c) the point I was trying to make was that a RISC processor which is "N times faster" than some CISC processor is not going to have the same improvement in all cases. I'll post the actual results if I can get them from a rerun. Boy are RISC people defensive! -- bill davidsen (wedu@ge-crd.arpa) {uunet | philabs}!steinmetz!crdos1!davidsen "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me