Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!hplabs!hp-ses!hpcea!twakeman From: twakeman@hpcea.CE.HP.COM (Teriann Wakeman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Mac 512 KE questions Message-ID: <430088@hpcea.CE.HP.COM> Date: 1 Mar 89 19:45:52 GMT References: <46700105@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: HP Corporate Engineering - Palo Alto, CA Lines: 28 The windows in a 512KE have a box on the right side of the top bar. Press it, & the window grows to fill the screen. Press it again & it goes back to its previous size. The 64K ROM "fat Mac" does not have this grow box. Also, a 64K ROM machine canot read nor format a 800K disc {the only exception being old external 800K disc drives designed to work with 64K ROM machines, this does not change internal drive's capabilities though} The 512KE does not have a SCSI port, no big deal if you don't use an external disc drive {except I highly recomend one, makes it a completely different machine feel wise}. Add on SCSI drives can be had, and come cheaper when included with a 512K too 1 meg RAM upgrade {Dove is a good brand for an upgrade}. A 512K will run anything that a Mac+ or SE will that will run on 512K of RAM. This includes most paint, draw, wordprocessor {esp MacWrite 4.? & WriteNow} most page processing applications, many spread sheet & database applications & most games. The box will tell you how much RAM it needs. Many newer applications &upgrades of several oldies require 1 mag or more but there is a lot out there that a 512K can handle, & they just aren't oldie mouldies. $800 seems high for a 512KE. That is pushing used Mac+ prices. I figure a ligit price for a 512E would be slightly less then the price of a used Mac+ minus the price of a Dove 1Meg & SCSI upgrade. Good Luck, TeriAnn