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From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for alternative support tools or replacement for HP64000's
Keywords: cross-compilers, transfer utilities, emulation
Message-ID: <1037@optilink.UUCP>
Date: 8 Mar 89 17:10:36 GMT
References: <2937@epimass.EPI.COM. <7712@venera.isi.edu.
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
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In article <7712@venera.isi.edu., raveling@vaxb.isi.edu (Paul Raveling) writes:
. In article <2937@epimass.EPI.COM. jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck) writes:
. .
. .My management wants to get rid of the VAX, and frankly, so do I.  The
. .problem, though, is continuing to support the code.  There are several
. .possibilities:
. .
. .1.  Junk the HP64000 (it's really ancient stuff) and go to a new type of
. .development system.  ...
. 
. 	One alternative you might want to check is Kontron Electronics
. 	development system products.  I'm haven't been in touch with
. 	their product line for several years, but would expect that
. 	they have a descendent of the FutureData Slave Emulator
. 	product line that would either communicate with a host
. 	or plug into an IBM PC or equivalent.

They certainly do.  (That was my baby at Kontron Electronics).  The
user interface is the best available in an in-circuit emulator today
(of course, I'm biased).  They can be reached at (415) 965-7020.

. 	Back when I was the MESS (Manager of Emulation Systems Software)
. 	at FutureData, the HP 64000's were our nearest competitor
. 	in terms of technical merit on 68000 emulators.  Both systems
. 	were generally similar, with similar tools available for
. 	cross-compilation and cross-assembly.  FutureData had an
. 	edge in the user interface for debugging via the emulator
. 	and in several emulation capabilities.

The gap between the Kontron product and their competitors isn't
as dramatic as it once was, but it's still worth considering.  Keep
in mind that successful emulation of a particular target system
is highly dependent on a variety of variables, including whether
your target's quirks match the emulator's quirks.

. 	Kontron bought FutureData and seems to be keeping a fairly
. 	low profile in this country, though I understand they're
. 	thriving in Europe.  It's probably worth checking on what
. 	they offer now.
. 
. Paul Raveling



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