Path: utzoo!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!ig!arizona!mike From: mike@arizona.edu (Mike Coffin) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Chinese Room Argument Message-ID: <9690@megaron.arizona.edu> Date: 13 Mar 89 20:31:45 GMT References: <10704@bcsaic.UUCP> Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson Lines: 29 From article <10704@bcsaic.UUCP>, by ray@bcsaic.UUCP (Ray Allis): > Is there some evidence > that would cause you to re-inspect your conviction that the "Systems Reply" > is sufficient? What part of the process by which I came to see the > inadequacy of the symbol processing approach can I explain more clearly? Sure. Convince me that no symbol-pushing engine can simulate pieces of my brain, if you make the pieces small enough. My belief in the systems reply is based exactly on this: 1) I have in my possesion a system that seems to understand and think: my brain. (My wife might argue about that...) 2) The brain (and the rest of the body) is made up of physical parts: electrons, atoms, molecules, cells, organs, etc. 3) I see no reason, in principle, that such parts can't be simulated to any desired precision, given powerful enough computers. Not necessarily Turing machines; we may need random bits. 4) Given such simulators, I see no reason, in principle, that I can't begin replacing my biological parts with simulated parts. Obviously I will need some chemical peripherals to interface the two systems. 5) Given that the simulations are accurate enough, I see no reason that at some point in the process of replacement I will cease to understand: e.g., that with 23.999% of my brain simulated, I understand, but with 24.000% I cease understanding. -- Mike Coffin mike@arizona.edu Univ. of Ariz. Dept. of Comp. Sci. {allegra,cmcl2}!arizona!mike Tucson, AZ 85721 (602)621-2858