Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!apple!voder!pyramid!prls!philabs!linus!mbunix!bwk From: bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry W. Kort) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: THE MIND EXTENDS BEYOND THE SKIN Summary: Cybernetics: Self-Regulating Feedback Control Systems Keywords: Mind, Brain, Robots, Searle, Governors Message-ID: <46265@linus.UUCP> Date: 12 Mar 89 07:27:57 GMT References: <305@edai.ed.ac.uk> <7337@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Sender: news@linus.UUCP Reply-To: bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Barry Kort) Organization: Garden Golems, Inc., Norbert, WI Lines: 27 In article <7337@boulder.Colorado.EDU> hassell@monarch.Colorado.EDU (Christopher Hassell) writes: > [ From article <305@edai.ed.ac.uk> cam@edai.ed.ac.uk, Chris Malcolm > introduces Bateson's example of a speed governor on a steam > engine and comments on the function of a governor or controller. ] > Control is entirely a misnomer in itself. In a deterministic system > what controls what??? What can EVER "control" what else? The governer > is "controlled" by speed, and from this there is never a "peak" in ANY > deterministically closed system. I think the term "regulator" more accurately captures the function of the "speed governor". In feedback control systems, we know that the control loop has two essential components: the Observer, which monitors the current output state, and the Controller, which applies an error-correcting adjustment to the system input. Central to the operation of a feedback loop is a "goal state" (ideal speed, say) around which perturbations and error-correcting adjustments are computed. So the self-regulating system controls itself, responding to the random winds which would otherwise deflect the system from its desired course. --Barry Kort