Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!apple!amdahl!nsc!andrew From: andrew@nsc.nsc.com (andrew) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: NN Question Summary: genes for the f-15 Keywords: natural selection Message-ID: <10180@nsc.nsc.com> Date: 11 Mar 89 10:27:13 GMT References: <32125@gt-cmmsr.GATECH.EDU> <10624@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> <971@afit-ab.arpa> Distribution: usa Organization: National Semiconductor, Santa Clara Lines: 32 In article <971@afit-ab.arpa>, efrethei@afit-ab.arpa (Erik J. Fretheim) writes: > > Agreed that natural selection would not trim extraneous processing, in fact > as you mention it would tend to enhance it as redundant systems. > Take for example pilots, natural selection tends to enhance the numbers > who fly airplanes with redundant systems - especially when external stresses > are induced. You make a good point, but I think you've been in the Airforce too long ! You can't compare a man-made system with its concomitant catastrophic failure modes (a la expert system) like an aircraft with a failure-tolerant, gracefully-degrading, adaptive system like an organism. It is precisely these features, born out of millenia of ad hoc adaption and evolution, which reduces the need to kludge on "triply-redundant catastrophically-failing" stuff like we do in our little designs in the year 1989. From this perspective, I tend to not see a particularly strong selection force in favour of redundancy in organisms. I guess what tickled me was the image of a gene coding for "the ability to fly a jet fighter"! The timescales of our tech revolutions compared with that of genetic modification are so out of kilter that it seemed sort of absurd to use the word "natural" in this context! =========================================================================== USE EMAIL ADR BELOW ONLY... Andrew Palfreyman, MS D3969 PHONE: 408-721-4788 work National Semiconductor 408-247-0145 home 2900 Semiconductor Dr. there's many a slip P.O. Box 58090 'twixt cup and lip Santa Clara, CA 95052-8090 DOMAIN: andrew@logic.sc.nsc.com ARPA: nsc!logic!andrew@sun.com USENET: ...{amdahl,decwrl,hplabs,pyramid,sun}!nsc!logic!andrew