Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uflorida!haven!rutgers!ucla-cs!loving From: loving@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Mike Loving) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: So, can you really fab 10**6 transistors now? Message-ID: <21668@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> Date: 13 Mar 89 22:01:10 GMT References: <7392@polya.Stanford.EDU> <62230001@hpl-opus.HP.COM> <1989Mar13.165931.22528@utzoo.uucp> Sender: news@CS.UCLA.EDU Reply-To: loving@cs.ucla.edu (Mike Loving) Followup-To: comp.arch Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 20 In article <1989Mar13.165931.22528@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: >In article <62230001@hpl-opus.HP.COM> poulton@hpl-opus.HP.COM (Ken Poulton) writes: >>... In *1982*, HP presented (at ISSCC) a 32bit CPU with >>450K transistors. It was fabbed in a 1.3um NMOS process. Yield was >>microscopic at the time of the paper, but soon came up... > >I seem to recall a non-HP assessment somewhere which said something like: >"The difficulty of getting good results from this self-aligning process >is demonstrated by the fact that it hasn't been used for anything else >since." >-- au contraire the exact same process was used for fabbing 4 or 5 other chips in that same machine and a slightly improved version of it was/is used to fabricate the chips for Spectrum (HP Precision Architecture - RISC) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Loving loving@lanai.cs.ucla.edu . . . {hplabs,ucbvax,uunet}!cs.ucla.edu!loving -------------------------------------------------------------------------------