Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!mailrus!cornell!uw-beaver!blake!robert From: robert@blake.acs.washington.edu (Gedankenleere) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: foreign language requirements for PhDs Message-ID: <1253@blake.acs.washington.edu> Date: 17 Mar 89 21:39:50 GMT References: <7287@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <2851@eos.UUCP> <401@rb-dc1.UUCP> <21572@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> <1280@wpi.wpi.edu> <134@cs.columbia.edu> Reply-To: robert@blake.acs.washington.edu (Gedankenleere) Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 25 All this crap about foreign language requirements making a better, more understanding, more tolerant human beings out of most of those who take foreign language have no hard, large-scale supporting data to back it up!!! Neither do the perpetual claims that it allows you to learn English better!! If you want people to better understand others' cultures they we should be requiring American ethnic studies, or comparitve world ethnic studies where you, as a student can PERSONNALY interact with people of other ethnic groups, or if infeasable, be confronted directly (perhaps through play acting,or some such devices, more effective than mere text reading or dry lecture) with the world views, concerns, perceptions (of You and your culture), of people from these other cultures!! Virtually all the time spent in a foreign language class is on mechanics of grammar, vocabulary, composition, idomatic speech patterns, NOT only direct confrontation or examination of your (and theirs) cultural perceptions and prejudices!! (make that: NOT ON instead of NOT only") It is my strong belief that the people in the humanities have brainwashed themselves and many of the rest of us in swallowing these claims whole, unchallenged, without any real critical scrutiny!! pardon the spelling errors and syntax errors, I don't have time (or the correct editor ) to go back and pretty this stuff up.