Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!amdahl!pacbell!ditka!qiclab!sopwith!snoopy From: snoopy@sopwith.UUCP (Snoopy) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: HST Package for USENET Keywords: HST USENET Message-ID: <142@sopwith.UUCP> Date: 19 Mar 89 03:34:34 GMT References: <18612@mcdchg.chi.il.us> Reply-To: snoopy@sopwith.UUCP (Snoopy) Organization: The Daisy Hill Puppy Farm Lines: 130 In article <18612@mcdchg.chi.il.us> kowals@studsys.mu.edu (kowalski) writes: | GET UNIVERSAL HIGH SPEED | MODEM COMPATIBILITY AND SAVE | $1,100!! A "universal" high speed modem that doesn't speak the most common high speed modem protocol on usenet. Doesn't sound very universal or compatible to me. | As a USENET node, I'm sure you are interested in reduced board time and | lower phone bills through the use of high speed modems. However, up to | now you had to choose a proprietary non-standard high speed modem or a | high priced incompatible V.32 modem. I've heard of atime, ctime, mtime, GMT time, and localtime, but this "board" time is a new one. Must have something to do with being universally incompatible. | Now authorized USENET nodes can upgrade their boards to full V.32 | compatibility at an extraordinary savings. I guess unauthorized USENET nodes like kremvax are out of luck. | U.S. Robotics-- the leader in high speed modems to the sysop community-- | is offering USENET nodes the fully CCITT V.32 compatible, Courier Dual | Standard high speed modem for only $699. A savings of $900 off the list | price! I paid less than that for my modem and it goes faster. | That's right, 9600 bps world wide V.32 compatibility, plus access to the | entire installed base of HST's. And at a price some companies charge for | their 2400 bps modems. What companies currently charge $699 for a 2400 baud modem and how many are they selling? Many 2400 baud modems sell for significantly less. | The HST Dual Standard supports not only high speed V.32, but also 2400, | 1200, and 300 bps, ensuring you that your node can now talk to everyone-- | worldwide! But it can't talk at high speed to anyone I talk to. | A special bonus for High Speed modem users-- | | Over the years, many of you may have purchased non-standard modems. The | problem-- they are only single sourced and they are NOT V.32 compatible. | If you have one of these non-standard products (and we won't mention any | names), USR will give you a special bonus-- | | Get HST/ix software (a $300 value) for $100-- an additional $200 | savings!!! Let me guess, a MS-DOS binary? | 1.) First contact USR at 1-800-Dial USR and speak to Susan Pompa-- | she'll ask you a few questions about your board. My board is made of Lexan (tm) and I slice tomatoes on it. | 2.) Then send us $699 (check or money order). Don't send us your old | modem yet-- we wouldn't want your board to be down for one minute. But I don't use my old modem to slice tomatoes. It would be a pain to clean. | 3.) When you receive your USR Dual Standard, install it on your board | and send us your warranty card, your old modem and $100. We'll send | you the HST/ix software, a $300 value. I hope the USR Dual Standard is dishwasher safe. Oh, I get it, dual standard means you can wash it by hand *or* in the dishwasher! Sort of expensive for slicing tomatoes on, though. I think I'll keep my lexan. | You're important to U.S. Robotics. So important that U.S. Robotics is willing to make a fool of themselves by going after our business without having the slightest idea of what we want or need in a modem. | We want to help you maintain your board with the latest communications | equipment. Thank you, but I think my cutting board can get by without it. | With the HST Dual Standard, we have the best USENET node solution. No you don't. | In short--your node will be able to communicate with everyone. No, my node can communicate with everybody now, but if I used your modem I'd be stuck at 2400. | It's our way of introducing the product to the UNIX community and to | support your USENET efforts. If you are interested in the USENET market, I suggest you learn a thing or two about it. First, the vast majority of traffic is compressed in the host. For good reason, it's more efficent that way. So don't bother quoting throughput figures using compression in the modem. We don't care. Second, what counts in a USENET modem are: (1) throughput sending compressed news batches via UUCP 'g' protocol, (2) ability to maintain a connection and reasonable throughput when the phone line quality is poor, (3) reliability of the hardware and good technical support when problems occur, (4) use of the 'AT' command set is probably a good idea, (5) decent interactive response for dial-up sessions, (6) SLIP support may very well become important in the near future, (7) some sites would like FAX support, (8) naturally, it also needs to speak 2400/1200/300 Items 1 and 2 are currently best achieved via the PEP(tm) protocol. There is therefore a large installed base of PEP modems, and any high-speed modem wishing to penetrate the usenet market had better talk PEP. V.32 would be nice, but probably not essential to most sites at this time. Sites that also talk to BBS systems might care about talking HST. Usenet sites run on a wide variety of hardware which are *not* binary compatable with each other, and never will be. Software needs to be source, in a very common, efficient language. C is a good choice. A modem that talks PEP and V.32 and HST and 2400/1200/300 might be very popular. Anything less is NOT universal. Naturally, the price would have to be reasonable. Good luck. _____ /_____\ Snoopy "My dot-matrix does Postscript." /_______\ |___| tekecs.wv.tek.com!sopwith!snoopy qiclab!sopwith!snoopy |___| sun!nosun!illian!sopwith!snoopy parsely!sopwith!snoopy