Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!leah!rpi!batcomputer!cornell!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!lord+ From: lord+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tom Lord) Newsgroups: comp.edu Subject: Re: Teaching, research, etc. Message-ID: Date: 16 Mar 89 20:25:30 GMT References: <564@cwjcc.CWRU.Edu>, <1989Mar6.143741.19434@cs.rochester.edu> Organization: Information Technology Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 19 In-Reply-To: <1989Mar6.143741.19434@cs.rochester.edu> > *Excerpts from ext.nn.comp.edu: 6-Mar-89 Re: Teaching, research, etc. Brian* > *Yamauchi@cs.roches (3441)* > Look at it this way. If CMU's undergrad enrollment dropped to zero, > the only effect on the CS department would be that they would need to > hire a bunch of part-time programmers from outside the university -- > they can afford it. I'm sorry to enter this discussion so late. Yes, you're right; At CMU the role that undergraduates play as individuals is the role of slaves. I've seen some pretty hairy job descriptions around here followed by: $4.25/Hour Must be Work Study Still, if a lot of undergraduates disappeared from the scene, or stopped paying their bills, it would have a very serious financial impact on this under-endowed degree mill. I've heard unofficially that half of the yearly budget comes frodm tuition. -t