Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!gatech!dcatla!holos0!lbr From: lbr@holos0.UUCP (Len Reed) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: UNIX needs a real text editor Message-ID: <1917@holos0.UUCP> Date: 13 Mar 89 22:06:55 GMT References: <222@imspw6.UUCP> <9653@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <5552@brspyr1.BRS.Com> <3370@ficc.uu.net> <7324@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Reply-To: lbr@holos0.UUCP (Len Reed) Distribution: usa Organization: Holos Software, Inc., Atlanta, GA Lines: 27 In article <7324@boulder.Colorado.EDU> walkerb@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Brian Walker) writes: >Actually, for all of it's clunks and clatters, vi is livable.... >And, you can learn to hit the dreaded [esc] key. I use vi, simply because it is already installed on every Unix or Xenix machine I sit down at, and I can put in on MS-DOS machines (which I sometimes have to deal with). I'm a consultant and spend time on my machines and on various customers machines. The dreaded Escape key is a problem because it's in a different place on every machine. But there's a real easy work-around for that: the '[' is almost always to the right of the 'P', and control-[ is an Ascii escape. I also touch type ^H for backspace and ^I for tab, since those keys wander all over, too. I know a tiny subset of Brief because it's the editor one of my customers is using on his PCs, and it has the utterly brain-damaged "feature" of not liking touch-typed ^H, ^[, etc.; apparantly it cares about the "scan codes." I just seeth when I see a circle when I type ^H. Yeah, I know that Brief's macro capabilities could get me around this, but the only reason I'm using it is because I'm sitting at someone else's PC, so *my* macros wouldn't be there, anyway. Now, does anyone have a solution to idiot keyboard makers that put the caps lock key where the Ctrl key should be? -- - Len Reed