Path: utzoo!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!sgi!shinobu!scotth From: scotth@harlie.sgi.com (Scott Henry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Yet Another Entry In The 1.4 Wish List... Message-ID: Date: 11 Mar 89 12:54:28 GMT References: <504@morgoth.UUCP> <3453@amiga.UUCP> <10942@well.UUCP> Sender: news@shinobu.SGI.COM Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc, Mountain View, CA Lines: 52 In-reply-to: ewhac@well.UUCP's message of 11 Mar 89 08:26:52 GMT I was going to keep out of the wish-list flame wars :-), but I am going to add my $0.02 worth. Up until a week ago, I had no real complaints (aside from wanting an iconification gadget on the windows) about the way Intuition handles handles window gadgets, sizing especially. However, I just saw something that I think is just an incredible improvement over the sizing gadget in the lower-right-hand corner: sizing gadgets in ALL FOUR CORNERS! Some background: I work at Silicon Graphics Inc, and am able to get an IRIS (made by SGI) on my desk. I can also pick up the latest revisions of the OS (even in internal alpha stage) as often as I want. The latest release of the IRIX (SGI's parallel version of SysV Un*x w/BSD extensions) window manager (4Sight, based on NeWS w/X11R3 support) included a major overhaul of the windowing system interface. There is a lot more real estate to play with on an IRIS (1280x1024 pixels with 8 or 24 bits/pixel) for windowing gadgetry than on an Amiga (675x440 on my interlace & overscan WB with 2 bits/pixel), so the imagry would have to be much different. The window borders are (at least) 5 pixels wide, so there is room for sizing gadgetry to be visible, plus, the mouse pointer changes shape to a '+' when it is over the sizing gadgets (which extend at least one character height both ways from the corner). In addition, the window has iconify gadget (upper left (I'v accidentally killed a few windows on my amiga because of work reflexes)), kill gadget (upper right), text memory scroll bar (proportional now!) with up & down arrow gadgets (left side of window). Popping and pushing is done by pop-up menu, though left-mouse click on border is short-cut for window-pop. I'm also getting rather fond of pop-up menus now... I *LIKE* the idea of 4-way sizable windows! If the border at each corner could be made visually different (say, the highlight color, or a dot pattern instead of solid, with a several pixel wide invisible hit area, it should gives us MORE window area (if you're not using scroll bars) than currently, along with more power/flexibility. A little fantasy of mine: SGI and CBM have a joint marketing program for graphics and animation -- a MacII beating combination: more power for 1/2 the money with an Amiga, or LOTS more power for twice the money with a (next generation) Personal Iris! (at the Oct 4th official announcment of the Personal Iris (it was shipping then), there was a public commitment by the president of SGI to bring an "under $10,000" IRIS to market as soon as possible). ------- Scott Henry Disclaimer: Though I work for SGI, these are only my opinions, and don't reflect SGI management or sales, etc, etc, :-). -- --------------------- Scott Henry #include