Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!peregrine!elroy!ames!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!moravian.EDU!nicholaA From: nicholaA@moravian.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: GS/OS and programming standards Message-ID: <8903072133.AA02112@batman.moravian.edu> Date: 7 Mar 89 21:33:10 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 86 Key: >>> = Jeff Erickson >> = me > = Jeff Erickson >>> For legal reasons, I need to spell this out: THESE ARE MY OPINIONS, >>> AND ARE NOT THE OPINIONS, OFFICIAL OR UNOFFICIAL, OF CLARIS OR ITS >>> DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. MINE, MINE, MINE, ALL MINE! In fact, these >>> are about as far from Calris's opinions as you can get. >> I'm also certainly glad about that, too. If everyone at Claris had an >> attitude like you _seem_ to express aobut the IIgs, we'd have a more >> serious problem than we already do, wouldn't we? > Yes, you would. Fortunately for you and other Apple IIgs users, that's not > the case. And for that, we're very happy. For your parent company's continued abuse of apple II users we are not happy. >> A certain article that Mike Westerfield wrote on AppleLink PE comes to mind >> right about this point. Just something I thought you wouldn't mind reading >> in the wake of all this Apple II-bashing: >> >> [Mike Westerfield's article] >> I can only say that I _really_ support what Mike said. >I'll believe it when I see it. I wouldn't mind seeing it, as would alot of II-people, but we rather sadly realize that it won't happen in the near future. > I'd be really surprised if what Mike suggests, which is what a LOT of > people I've talked to suggest , ever happens. The only exception is > HyperCard, a color version of which is being developed by Roger Wagner. > I saw it at AppleFest; it looked promising. > I'd really like to like the GS. But you can see that there are problems > with it that can only be solved by Apple. You're sticking by your > computer -- that's great. I wish I had your faith in Apple's support > of the II line. I don't have a whole lot of faith in "Apple's support of the II line" (should read apple's lack-of support for the II line, but I suppose that's beating a dead horse). I only "stick by my computer" because it just so happens that I can only _afford_ a single computer right now, it's the one I happen to know the most about, and something about it appeals to me. Sure, I suppose if I had alot more money I might go buy something else. I'm in college and am trying to make the best of what I've got. > While Apple's official position is "Apple II forever", there are enough > middle (and not-so-middle) level managers who either dislike the II or > don't care that the development effort has suffered. Apple is making > a HUGE mistake by not supporting the GS better. Amen to that. Maybe someday Apple will wake up and stop screwing around... We can only hope... but maybe by then it will have been to late. > As far as I'm concerned, Apple has demonstrated that they will not > live up to this machine's potential. Every last one of Mike's requests > (except maybe firing everyone) is reasonable. I'd love to see a faster > GS with bug-free tools and system software. But I'm not holding my > breath any more. That's because the machine's potential has _already_ been exceeded hardware-wise. GS/OS and the IIgs Toolbox tax the IIgs system more than anything has _ever_ strained an Apple II in daily use. As for mike's request for firing everyone, I wouldn't mind seeing a little "attitude adjustment" take place at apple... and beyond. andy > -- > Jeff Erickson \ Internet: krazy@claris.com AppleLink: Erickson4 > Claris Corporation \ UUCP: {ames,apple,portal,sun,voder}!claris!krazy > 415/960-2693 \________________________________________________________ > ____________________/ "I'm so heppy I'm mizzabil!" ------------- Andy Nicholas CsNET: shrinkit@moravian.edu Box 435, Moravian College InterNET: shrinkit%moravian.edu@relay.cs.net Bethlehem, PA 18018 liberty!batman!shrinkit@sun.com uucp: rutgers!lafcol!lehi3b15!mc70!shrinkit AppleLink PE: ShrinkIt rutgers!liberty!batman!shrinkit Send replies to "shrinkit" as our mailer is case-sensitive.