Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!hubcap!gatech!unmvax!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!osu-cis!n8emr!lwv From: lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: GS specific programs Message-ID: <913@n8emr.UUCP> Date: 12 Mar 89 20:08:07 GMT References: <8903111538.AA24748@crash.cts.com> Reply-To: lwv@n8emr.UUCP (Larry W. Virden) Organization: Ham BBS, 614-457-4227 (1200/2400/19.2 telebit,8N1) Lines: 29 In article <8903111538.AA24748@crash.cts.com> pnet01!pro-ascii!pro-charlotte!pro-novapple!gnh-starport!jschober@nosc.mil writes: -->Ah, but it is! Somewhat, anyway. AW 2.0 and higher definitely uses GS Memory -->Manager calls to allocate memory; I dunno if it does any of the spreadsheet -->calculations in 16-bit mode. But... so WHAT? AppleWorks works, it's been -->working for 5 years, and everyone loves it... why should people stop using it -->on the GS just because it doesn't support the mouse and a desktop environment? -->You're doing something common: confusing "GS-specific" with "desktop based". I Nope - I am not confusing GS-specific with desktop based. I was just unaware, since I dont own AppleWorks, that they had special code in it that said "If you are on a IIgs, go allocate memory from the memory manager". Thus, it does work better in the GS environment than I had thought. I still say that having only ONE such program is a sure sign of a declining environment. -->instead. The super-hi-res desktop environment is one of the GS'es biggest -->features. It's also one of its biggest liabilities: PROCESSING that huge -->graphics bitmap is what slows down the system so much! The optimum solution What I dont understand is if processing the minimal bitmap slows down this machine so much, then why in heaven's name are all those other machines which process bitmaps so fast? Is it perhaps not so much the bitmap, but the code that is DOING the refresh / manipulation the thing that is slow? Or is it indeed that the HARDWARE implementation of the bitmap subsystem that is designed to run so slowly? I am just trying to understand. I have seen a SE/30 and it SCREAMS! Now of course, the CPU is faster - but everyone keeps telling me in voice talks that it isnt the GS's CPU that is slowing down the GS, its because its doing everything in graphics. -- Larry W. Virden 674 Falls Place, Reynoldsburg, OH 43068 (614) 864-8817 75046,606 (CIS) ; LVirden (ALPE) ; osu-cis!n8emr!lwv (UUCP) osu-cis!n8emr!lwv@TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (INTERNET) The world's not inherited from our parents, but borrowed from our children.