Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!hubcap!gatech!unmvax!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ANDREW.CMU.EDU!jm7e+ From: jm7e+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU ("Jeremy G. Mereness") Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Why Keep the //.... Message-ID: Date: 15 Mar 89 04:22:59 GMT References: <9064@claris.com> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 42 >> The Apple // may not built like a workstation like a Mac, designed to handle >> raw power with little overhead, but the // has more to offer to the young >> programmer than any other machine. The logical progression from BASIC to >> Machine Language to the first assembler was crucial to many CS and CE >> majors today. > More and more CS and CE majors these days >are going through life without ever having to deal with assembly language >much at all, and NEVER having to deal with machine language directly. Sad, but true. I am discussing th Golden Days when hacking was for real and code was optimized. >I went from Applesoft BASIC to Pascal instead of to assembly. So I'm weird. Actually, that's what I meant, although I spent some time with the Apple // Reference Manual making sense of the monitor until I got Merlin. The incentive, ofcourse, was that BASIC was too slow for those games we wanted to write. It was a great platform to try things out in, but its sluggishness made assembly a must if the games were ever going to work. Nibble, Softalk, and InCider helped, too. >If the Mac were simpler, or a simple environment could be introduced onto >it, I'd prefer a programmable Mac, simply because it does more. I don't >mean HyperCard, either. (What kind of programming language doesn't have >arrays?) But out of all computers on the market right now, the one I'd by >for my kids to play on is an Apple //. *sigh* I could go for a Mac //cx with a fast Apple //GS in one of the three NuBus slots.... the GS still has an old // in it.... >Jeff Erickson \ Internet: krazy@claris.com AppleLink: Erickson4 >Claris Corporation \ UUCP: {ames,apple,portal,sun,voder}!claris!krazy >415/960-2693 \________________________________________________________ >____________________/ "I'm so heppy I'm mizzabil!" > jeremy mereness ============= jm7e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arpanet) r746jm7e@CMCCVB (vax.... Bitnet)