Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!iuvax!purdue!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!asd From: asd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Why, why, why? Message-ID: <1869@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Date: 19 Mar 89 01:34:09 GMT References: <9098@claris.com> Reply-To: asd@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth) Organization: Purdue University Lines: 78 In article <9098@claris.com> krazy@claris.com (Jeff Erickson) writes: >From jm7e+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU ("Jeremy G. Mereness"): >>Because Apple doesn't push AppleII's at universities. The idea (and I've >heard this from several sources) is that as far as education is concerned, >Apple II's are for the K-12 market. College students need Macs, because >(I presume) Apples just aren't powerful enough to fill the needs of the >average college student. Yeah, right, and the cow jumped over the moon. I've had a IIgs at college for a year and half now and have never had any any problems with lack of power to do things except run GS/OS Mac-type programs. >Does the consortium give discounts on Apple II's at all? I don't seem to >recall any mention of the Apple IIgs on Rice's consortium price list. Yeah, just gotta sell those Mac's. Who cares if the user might only need all the features a IIc+ or IIe might offer, at considerably less expense. >> The Ensoniq chip is for >> the most part unexplored as a MIDI instrument. Why? >They don't want to get sued by the Beatles? (Oops! Too late!) That lawsuit has got to be one of the absolute first class stupid whining. Sounds lot like the case of some girl who sued the Cracker-Jack's people cuz she didn't get a toy in her box. >> I just want to know why, and then I will shut up. I cannot ignore these >> issues being where I am, and each day without anything new only makes me >> more confused about Apple's faith and intentions. I don't see how these >> concerns are unreasonable. If they are, tell me. >Answer: $$$$ Apple IIs don't make enough money. $$$$ Seeing as how Apple is what it is for one and only one reason, Apple II's, this seems fairly ridiculous. Didn't somebody mention a fairly large sum that the Apple was making from the II's (which is probably going straight into Mac research as we speak). >I don't really care why. Internal politics, economics, Jean-louis Gassee's >horoscope, the failure of Woz's US festival, ANYTHING could be the reason. >>I'll< shut up when I see >results< from >Apple<. >On the other hand, it may be too late. c) Bingo. >>{moved from above} >> I would hate to go to all that work and read something in MacWeek that >> Apple has canned the Apple //. I think that such a concern is reasonable, >> and I have seen such articles; luckily, they have been denied. >> >When next week's MacWeek comes out, read it. If the rumors I've heard >recently around here are correct, it's going to generate a lot of heat >on comp.sys.apple. > >I hate to say this, Jeremy, but I think your nightmare may be coming true. So Keith, Matt, whoever, how about somebody denying this or are you being quiet because this is true? I'm getting damned sick and tired of the silent treatment out of Apple because folks might stop buying the current computer. Hell, people are going to stop buying because more and more it's seeming like these rumors might come true, what with the fact Apple seems to want to dump the whole II line and make everything a Mac. I think any real response out of Apple will do a hell of a lot more good than hurt by slowing Apple sales. It'll say that Apple is dedicated to the computer that made your company, that created all those jobs that have, that made it possible for you to put out a Mac in the first place. I've often heard rumors about new and better Macs. And they've come true. Last rumor I heard about the IIgs was that the IIgs+ was gonna be a major disappointment. So I challenge you to answer the questions before you, is the Apple II gonna die or what? And if you're not in the position to, then tell somebody higher up to do so. These rumors are starting to seem a bit too much like the truth. Keith you once said something about the fact that we couldn't know about all the great things in the works behind closed doors. Seems stuff about what's being worked on for the Mac's keeps coming, but never hear anything about the II's to make me want to invest my faith in the II line. It's time Apple shored up the morale of it's II users. Or Amiga here we come. (I'm sure the Amiga folks would have no qualms with that what so ever) kareth. -- Be excellent to one another!