Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!indri!nic.MR.NET!umn-d-ub!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!rat From: rat@madnix.UUCP (David Douthitt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Apple ][ Languages Keywords: languages Message-ID: <548@madnix.UUCP> Date: 18 Mar 89 15:43:57 GMT References: <8903102123.AA16292@decwrl.dec.com> <1106@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> Reply-To: rat@madnix.UUCP (David Douthitt) Distribution: na Organization: ARP Software, Madison, WI Lines: 27 In article <1106@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> c08_d042@jhunix.UUCP (Stdnt 42) writes: | | Yeah there might be tons of languages for the Apple II but PRACTICALLY | ALL OF THEM ARE INTERPRETERS!!!! Which makes them totally useless except | for limited learning purposes. I have yet to see a decent prodos-based | Pascal or C COMPILER that produces STANDALONE MACHINE CODE!! The Kyan Pascal compiler generates VERY fast 6502 code - running the Sieve it beat both a 6502-based Forth and a 65802-based Forth. Also, all of the Forths I've seen for the Apple use their standard compiler/interpreter mix - very fast. | and don't | say Manx Aztec C because that thing prints text slow as all hell. What | we need are compilers that handle memory management decently, allow | automatic overlay activation if the program is run on a II+ with only 64k, | and a decent meshing with the o/s. This might already exist, I dunno though, | I haven't really seen it. Hyper C Prodos looks promising but they are | bankrupt I believe. [david] -- ======== David Douthitt :::: Madison, WI :::: The Stainless Steel Rat ======== FidoNet: 1:121/2 ::::: WittiNet: "Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice." :::::: UseNet: ...{rutgers|ucbvax|harvard}!uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!rat ArpaNet: madnix!rat@cs.wisc.edu {decvax|att}!